SC Clearance Question

**northernladuk** · 16 February 2016, 18:15

I don't think you will get any value asking us that. We don't have a clue. The sticky should have told you enough about the process and what is and isn't important to be able to make your own opinion surely?

Should you tell them? If they ask then they want to know so tell them. If they don't ask them it isn't relevant so don't tell them. Do NOT attempt to be devious, underhand or untruthful as is mentioned several times on the thread.

In my completely useless opinion the theft from employer is a little too old but could be a flag you are untrustworthy with secret data. Fraud I would think would be a problem as it's another honesty flag and the harassment, dunno. It's not really going to affect your trustworthiness to handle data. The point about only sending her flowers would make me think you are not taking any of it seriously though and would throw the application out there and then.

Apply, give them what it asks and see what happens.

**LondonManc** · 16 February 2016, 18:26

I think the circumstances of the laptop theft would be of most interest to them.

**stek** · 16 February 2016, 18:42

Originally posted by drap View Post

Having read the Q&A pinned thread and through several other posts, i would like to ask what is the likelihood of me passing the SC clearance.

The convictions were:

Theft from an employer - i stole a laptop (1992)
Fraud - My girlfriend stole some money from me, so i replaced it from her credit card (2005)
Harassement - I sent her a bunch of flowers, to her work, to say thanks! (2005)

A lot of the work that i'm involved in requires SC clearance now and several jobs that i have been put forward for are asking to put me through it. Should i tell them prior to being put forwarded or should i wait to be employed and apply?

Don't tell them and hope you get away with it. Works in Westminster.

**SueEllen** · 16 February 2016, 19:09

How hard are you finding it to get jobs in other areas such as NHS, government and financial services? If you don't have problems getting roles in those areas then you should get security clearance.

**clearedforlanding** · 16 February 2016, 19:31

The convictions are:

Theft from an employer of a laptop (and possibly information theft). (1992)
Fraud committed using or involving a payment card to obtain unauthorised funds from an account. (2005)
Harassment of a previous partner at her workplace. (2005)

Your reasons did not convince the court not to convict you and will not form part of an assessment of the risk you present. They are irrelevant.

In black and white it doesn't look good to a prospective client.

should i wait to be employed

This is a contractor forum so employment is irrelevant. Mostly your SC will be performed before you are allowed on site.

**FrontEnder** · 16 February 2016, 23:50

So you're a thief and a liar and have some sort of harassment charge on top of that. I wouldn't trust you with a regular job, let alone one that might require you to handle sensitive data or government secrets.

I'm no expert in SC clearance though, so maybe they don't give a tulipe about this sort of stuff.

**northernladuk** · 17 February 2016, 00:11

Originally posted by FrontEnder View Post

So you're a thief and a liar and have some sort of harassment charge on top of that. I wouldn't trust you with a regular job, let alone one that might require you to handle sensitive data or government secrets.

I'm no expert in SC clearance though, so maybe they don't give a tulipe about this sort of stuff.

Oddly enough they don't really. That's the recruitment side to sort that out. SC is just looking in to whether you are trustworthy enough to get access to sensitive data. Beating the crap out of someone doesn't really change that but dishonesty, fraud and possibly money problems does.

**gixxer** · 17 February 2016, 00:39

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

Oddly enough they don't really. That's the recruitment side to sort that out. SC is just looking in to whether you are trustworthy enough to get access to sensitive data. Beating the crap out of someone doesn't really change that but dishonesty, fraud and possibly money problems does.

I somehow want to believe that the OP is a hoax, and likely it is. I got binned for a bank contract after having worked long years in the financial sector just because my credit history is not good...or better not exsitent as I have never been resident in the UK...goes without saying that I could provide clean records for all the countries where I lived.

**northernladuk** · 17 February 2016, 08:34

Originally posted by gixxer View Post

I somehow want to believe that the OP is a hoax, and likely it is. I got binned for a bank contract after having worked long years in the financial sector just because my credit history is not good...or better not exsitent as I have never been resident in the UK...goes without saying that I could provide clean records for all the countries where I lived.

You've not thought this through very well. Having a bad credit history and working with money are potentially the worst combination. So many news articles on people working with finances fiddling it because they can't pay the mortgage. Happens on a weekly basis.
To put the OP in a similar situation to yours would be him having a conviction for selling company data.

If you'd assaulted someone (outside of work) you wouldnt have been binned. It's about what makes you a risk to what you are doing.

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