Supervision, Direction, and Control

**cojak** · 9 February 2016, 14:07

It sounds like an agency is trying to pretend that it's a consultancy.

Whatever, it will make you inside of IR35. And as for the agreement for finding work services - what agreement is that? Are they demanding that you can only work through them? Are they demanding money for finding you work?

What is the agreement? Let us know and we'll all have a good laugh at it a and let you know why you should laugh at it too.

**northernladuk** · 9 February 2016, 14:08

You'd think the sensible thing would be to let QDOS have a look at this?

**Danglekt** · 9 February 2016, 14:30

I'd ask them what employment rights they are offering in return

**cojak** · 9 February 2016, 14:34

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

You'd think the sensible thing would be to let QDOS have a look at this?

There isn't a client at the end of it, just an agency agreement. I wouldn't waste good money asking QDOS to review a contract that doesn't refer to a specific client, I'd just refuse to sign.

The OP can ask us, it's as much as the contract is worth anyway...

**mudskipper** · 9 February 2016, 14:39

Does the end client make cars?

**northernladuk** · 9 February 2016, 14:42

Originally posted by cojak View Post

There isn't a client at the end of it, just an agency agreement. I wouldn't waste good money asking QDOS to review a contract that doesn't refer to a specific client, I'd just refuse to sign.

The OP can ask us, it's as much as the contract is worth anyway...

So you think he is going through one of these managed service things like Hyphen offered to Barclays? They didn't normally get you on board until there was actually a role to go for else you'd be straight on the bench.

If the OP has PI/PL through QDOS he would get a free basic review.

As usual it's too little info to give any kind of reasonable answer I guess.

**LisaContractorUmbrella** · 9 February 2016, 14:49

It may also have been included so that there can be no possibility of debt transfer under the new legislation on tax relief on travel and subsistence expenses

**SlipTheJab** · 9 February 2016, 15:03

Originally posted by cojak View Post

There isn't a client at the end of it, just an agency agreement. I wouldn't waste good money asking QDOS to review a contract that doesn't refer to a specific client, I'd just refuse to sign.

The OP can ask us, it's as much as the contract is worth anyway...

+1, I reckon NLUK is moonlighting as a QDOS salesman these days

**SueEllen** · 9 February 2016, 15:41

Originally posted by pscx View Post

Has anyone here, as a Ltd Company, ever signed a contract that specifically mentions that you will be under the supervision, direction, and control of the client?

NO

Originally posted by pscx View Post

Funny thing is, in this instance I am talking about an AGENCY that wants me to sign that. Not even a company. In fact in a previous contract with a client I had there was a specific point saying I will NOT be under their SDC.

On a sidenote, has anyone here signed an "agreement for work finding services" or similar contract with an agency before they actually even secured you a contract? I've never had to do that in the past.

Only when I was a temp many moons ago. However agencies wouldn't take you on to their books unless they knew they could find work for you immediately. They use to make up excuses to get you to go away if there wasn't an immediate role for you.

In regards to work as a contractor - I ignore any agency that sends things like that as they clearly don't understand the market they are in.

Supervision, Direction, and Control