Permanent Offer

[JohnJizzle]

Hi All,

Hoping for some advice - with the banter and abuse welcome

I've been contracting almost 18 months. My plan was do it for 2-3 years then when kids are at full time school work permanent in my home city.

I'm currently working a contract 45 miles away and it takes about an hour each way. They are offering to make me perm (wage to be discussed). My day rate is currently 350.

I want to move back perm soon anyway (would have preferred my home city). What salary, on that day rate, should I push for? My last perm salary was around £45k (with 20 mins travel each way)

[PurpleGorilla]

I was on £58k and excellent benefits when I left for £420 a day.

I'm loads better of on £420-450 a day than when I was a permie.

[seanraaron]

Hi All,

Hoping for some advice - with the banter and abuse welcome

I've been contracting almost 18 months. My plan was do it for 2-3 years then when kids are at full time school work permanent in my home city.

I'm currently working a contract 45 miles away and it takes about an hour each way. They are offering to make me perm (wage to be discussed). My day rate is currently 350.

I want to move back perm soon anyway (would have preferred my home city). What salary, on that day rate, should I push for? My last perm salary was around £45k (with 20 mins travel each way)

Almost the same as me, but my commute was on foot. I would angle for £50k if you think they'll go for it - that's what it would take to get me to give up contracting (along with the company not being crap to work for).

[jbond007]

Hi All,

Hoping for some advice - with the banter and abuse welcome

I've been contracting almost 18 months. My plan was do it for 2-3 years then when kids are at full time school work permanent in my home city.

I'm currently working a contract 45 miles away and it takes about an hour each way. They are offering to make me perm (wage to be discussed). My day rate is currently 350.

I want to move back perm soon anyway (would have preferred my home city). What salary, on that day rate, should I push for? My last perm salary was around £45k (with 20 mins travel each way)

£65k at least + benefits. Would try to get it closer to £70k-£75k mark. Run some figures through tax calculators to see what your take home would be on £60k, £70k, £75k and how does that fit in with your current living costs

Benefits should hopefully include private medical (though it's classed as BIK, so you'll be liable for BIK tax), decent pension contribution scheme, car allowance & bonus

Also, bear in mind you will lose child benefit at over £60k unless you play around with pensions. I believe you would not get the full £243 childcare voucher as well, not sure what the higher band child care voucher allowance is

Would try and negotiate WFH for a day or two a week as well if you can.

[northernladuk]

What will you be happy with? Very unlikely you'll get 65k plus. We convert what we take him from day rate to perm rate. Itnsimply doesn't work like that and client certainly won't be using that assumption. Its likely to be a little higher than a permie as he's got the guy he wants so could be top of the scale but I'd be surprised if it's anywhere near a contractor equivalent.

[JohnJizzle]

thanks all the quick replies.

I would probably be happy with 55-60 + benefits (car/car allowance etc.) - and think that they may offer around here. Even on that I know I wouldnt be coming out with as much as contracting.

I like working at the place and could possibly get working from home once a fortnight (possibly once a week)

[clearedforlanding]

My view is that you are not at a good career stage to go back to permie. When your rates are 500-700 is the first sweet spot. 1.2K is the next one.

Your career/income progression is going to happen a lot faster (on average) while contracting at this time.

[JohnJizzle]

I've never seen a job doing what I do (SQL) offering that kind of money (especially up North)

[SpontaneousOrder]

£350 is not a high rate. I don't understand the people saying 65k+

[WTFH]

Start off with a different question...
How much do you need to be paid? (not want, but need)


So, take a look at your monthly outgoings from your personal account. What does that total up to?


That's the minimum amount after tax you can afford to live on based on your current lifestyle.
A quick bit of calculating back will tell you what your gross annual salary needs to be.


Then add on some for holidays, savings etc.


That's how you get your minimum.