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    #51
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    They aren't playing silly buggers. They are a business and doing what they need to as dictated by that business. How on earth can you think that is 'playing silly buggers'. They have been upfront and honest about it.
    They need a perm so in the meantime they will use a flexible resource to fill the gap. It's kinda core of what we do. Not all contracts are for projects that have fixed end dates.
    Delaying signing timesheets, moaning about contractors is playing silly buggers.
    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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      #52
      Originally posted by moneymoney View Post
      i'm chasing at the moment to get 11 weeks worth of timesheets approved and signed off, want them approved before I give notice
      11 weeks! wow. I'd be starting to threaten non attendance at this point.

      And deffo keep quiet about leaving or you might get more problems trying to get this sorted.

      NLUK - silly buggers?
      Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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        #53
        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        Actually it's not unprofessional.

        As a small business you don't give credit to companies just because they can't be bothered to pay on time.

        Companies of all sizes go bust - remember Enron and Lehman Brothers? I've met contractors and former contractors stung by them.

        You need to inform your clients that they need to pay on time. You don't allow them to get into the habit of paying you late because they can.
        SE is spot on with this. Can't be arsed is not an excuse.

        Two weeks would be max for me.

        Never underestimate the chances that this will all go wrong for a variety of reasons.
        Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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          #54
          Originally posted by moneymoney View Post
          i'm chasing at the moment to get 11 weeks worth of timesheets approved and signed off, want them approved before I give notice
          Mate, seriously, beyond all else get this resolved.
          No one is too big to fail, these days you should give up as little credit as possible.

          You say they are "small and niche", don't become a victim, if they have misjudged their market.
          The Chunt of Chunts.

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            #55
            Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
            Mate, seriously, beyond all else get this resolved.
            No one is too big to fail, these days you should give up as little credit as possible.

            You say they are "small and niche", don't become a victim, if they have misjudged their market.
            This.

            I'm as likely to give a ClientCo 11 weeks credit as they are to pay me 11 weeks up front.
            I'm a smug bastard.

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              #56
              Originally posted by fool View Post
              You having a laugh?

              At 11 weeks I'd highly question whether or not you're going to be paid at all and would be downing tools. It takes them no time at all to sign timesheets and it's pretty much the only part of the relationship they need to manage.

              If I were you, tomorrow morning I'd be printing them out, putting them in front of the appopriate person and glare until they sign. Have they paid you at all until renewnal.
              Good point. I might be paranoid but has there been a conversation along the lines of
              "Bugger we don't want to keep that contractor on"
              "How about we keep him on but get a permie in sharpish" "Tell you what don't sign his timesheets and we'll cut him loose and we might not have to pay him at all then"
              "Good idea - might work"

              Just saying like. I've seen some right crooked f@ckers over the years who would do this sort of thing. Some clients/employers will do ANYTHING to get what they want and/or save money.

              (Got some good stories about redundancy at one place I worked - they went around and dug dirt on everyone - all total crap - and then tried to sack them so they didnt have follow redundancy process/pay out. Didn't work but they tried!)
              Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                #57
                Originally posted by moneymoney View Post
                yes, i've never had any issues with pay. I'm with an agency so I fill out timesheets online and then someone at client co needs to approve. They have always done so, but sometimes need a nudge/reminder. I can't imagine they wouldn't pay up but I will push for them to be approved this week as that is a long time.
                Mate. 11 weeks. If you dont have a signed timesheet then it causes all sorts of problems if things go belly up.

                If they havent approved them they 'could' even say "nah hes not been here for weeks" then you've got a legal fight to prove it.
                Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  To be fair I don't think any of us actually believe you should 'never' give notice. Just some of us don't care for the mercenary attitude. Always makes for a good healthy debate.
                  But business is a mercenary business.

                  In fact, to stretch to an analogy; no mercenary is looking to get into a firefight, but if he is hesitant to pick up his weapon and let rip when the time comes he's going to get slaughtered.
                  I'm a smug bastard.

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                    #59
                    I've already chased this morning, and will do so again soon if they haven't been approved.

                    In general Client Co are just very very slack with this kind of thing, my contract was up for a week before it was renewed, others have had the same issue with contract been up before it's been renewed. They have never screwed anyone over that I'm aware of, just slack in how they handle things. I suspect they will stay that way until they get burned by someone who rightfully walks out when their contract expires and nothing is already in place.

                    I really don't think this is part of some masterplan to push me out, far from it, I'm pretty sure they want me to stay, at least until they are ready for me to go.

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                      #60
                      just had written confirmation it will be done today......so I'll leave it for now and chase if it hasn't

                      thanks for all the advice

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