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    Backdated VAT

    Hi all. New on here and been having a look for an answer to my question. I think I 'may' have the answer, but I would like someone to confirm if possible.

    So; I have set my Limited company up and registered for VAT. My accountant invoiced my Agency on my behalf on a weekly basis. The invoices clearly stated my VAT registration number at the top underneath my Ltd company name. I was working away from home and as such did not have access to the HMRC certificate of VAT registration. Once I got home I sent a copy of it to my Agency. They are now saying it is their 'company policy' not to pay backdated VAT on invoices. It isn't backdated though, it is in black and white on all submitted invoices; all the required information is there. Are they within their rights to withold the VAT if they didn't have a copy of my VAT cert, or are they on a sticky wicket and I have a case? The sum involved is just over £1300. My accountants say it will become a liability on their part. I certainly hope so as I don't want to have to find this myself.
    Many thanks for your comments
    Gary

    #2
    No they can't refuse to pay the VAT element.

    You've quite correctly invoiced them and included the VAT number, the fact that they hadn't seen your VAT reg certificate is irrelevant, that's just internal process on their behalf wanting to see it. If nothing else it's not backdated since it will show it was issued before your invoices. I don't insist on seeing the VAT certificates of my suppliers before I will pay the VAT.

    They're being bone headed and stupid, in your shoes I would make it very clear (in writing) that they are liable for the VAT and give them written notice that the debt will be pursued by formal dunning process.

    Of course they may then try to get rid of you, but a customer that won't pay properly isn't worth keeping.

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      #3
      Your accountant is doing your invoicing? What else do they do for you??
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        #4
        The agency are being stupid. If you were VAT registered and valid VAT invoices were sent then they are liable to pay the VAT. That you hadn't sent them. Copy if your certificate is utterly irrelevant. There is no backdated VAT here so they are talking tulip.

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          #5
          Originally posted by gary3306 View Post
          Hi all. New on here and been having a look for an answer to my question. I think I 'may' have the answer, but I would like someone to confirm if possible.

          So; I have set my Limited company up and registered for VAT. My accountant invoiced my Agency on my behalf on a weekly basis. The invoices clearly stated my VAT registration number at the top underneath my Ltd company name.
          The invoices show your vat number, but did you invoice for VAT?

          e.g.

          Professional Fees - £2000
          VAT - £400
          Total - £2400


          Or did you invoice without VAT?

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            #6
            Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
            The invoices show your vat number, but did your accountant invoice for VAT?

            e.g.

            Professional Fees - £2000
            VAT - £400
            Total - £2400


            Or did you invoice without VAT?
            Am I the only one that is a little curious about why his accountant is doing his invoicing?
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              #7
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              Am I the only one that is a little curious about why his accountant is doing his invoicing?
              Yes, for now. Think you're getting side-tracked. But if it's the same one that's charging £276/month....
              The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                #8
                I am curious as to if VAT was even on the original invoice... Its not made clear.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  Am I the only one that is a little curious about why his accountant is doing his invoicing?
                  lots of invoices are submitted by accountants so that they can be tracked easily (assuming op fills out an online timesheet type thing with their accountant then clicks "ok, invoice client")

                  you asking your accountant to invoice someone is only the same as bigco getting their accounts department to invoice for something... calm down nluk

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pr1 View Post
                    lots of invoices are submitted by accountants so that they can be tracked easily (assuming op fills out an online timesheet type thing with their accountant then clicks "ok, invoice client")

                    you asking your accountant to invoice someone is only the same as bigco getting their accounts department to invoice for something... calm down nluk
                    Hmm I've not heard any contractors doing this though but you could be right. A certain Mr Upton was using a number of methods it would have been worth picking up early on so don't see the harm in mentioning it.
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