I'm contracting as an Architect - and from my point of view, many clients feel Architect need to be around until project delivery. I haven't seen many projects delivered in 30 days.
							
						
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 An Architect should always be engaged until the delivery, that is of paramount importance IMO.Originally posted by jbond007 View PostI'm contracting as an Architect - and from my point of view, many clients feel Architect need to be around until project delivery. I haven't seen many projects delivered in 30 days.
 I guess smaller projects might be delivered in 30 days, but they would have to be very small and the industry is of real importance here.
 Some industrys can easily spend 30 days+ discussing the "problem".The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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 Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostSome industrys can easily spend 30 days+ discussing the "problem".
 
 Trust me, Mark, some industries can spend 30 days discussing the plans to think about discussions to decide if there is a problem to discuss.
 
 
 Was working with a client recently where they started discussing the possibility of doing a small project 3 years ago.
 Got sign off for the project after 2 years.
 Spent 2 weeks of meetings internally.
 Took 3 months off.
 Got sign off for $100k.
 Spent 1 week of meetings with externals.
 Ran up a bill of $20k for the externals attending the meetings.
 Realised the project was underfunded by $300k. (it was closer to $600k, but they wouldn't accept that number)
 Spent 4 weeks in internal meetings.
 Canned the project for another 2 years.…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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 Sounds like some at current client co.Originally posted by WTFH View PostTrust me, Mark, some industries can spend 30 days discussing the plans to think about discussions to decide if there is a problem to discuss.
 
 
 Was working with a client recently where they started discussing the possibility of doing a small project 3 years ago.
 Got sign off for the project after 2 years.
 Spent 2 weeks of meetings internally.
 Took 3 months off.
 Got sign off for $100k.
 Spent 1 week of meetings with externals.
 Ran up a bill of $20k for the externals attending the meetings.
 Realised the project was underfunded by $300k. (it was closer to $600k, but they wouldn't accept that number)
 Spent 4 weeks in internal meetings.
 Canned the project for another 2 years.
 
  The Chunt of Chunts. The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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 Current client.
 
 Project started in Jan
 Jan - Mar - 3 architects + 2 system analysts (high paid contractors)
 Apr - Decides they need an expensive expert on a cool buzzinga technology (me)
 May - Project gets few more permies and contractors (10 in total) + 2 expensive external vendors advising on key bits
 Jun - Lots of fancy requirements, changes everywhere - vision, strategy, process
 July - £1 million spent so far. Probably 10 classes + 2 web services were developed. POC worked decently on FF and Chrome
 Aug - Project is being canned since its too difficult. A new simpler version being planned for another £500K. Contract renewed for six more months 
 
 Mar 16 - Pretty sure this will repeatComment
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 KeeerrrchingOriginally posted by pangeakiller View PostCurrent client.
 
 Project started in Jan
 Jan - Mar - 3 architects + 2 system analysts (high paid contractors)
 Apr - Decides they need an expensive expert on a cool buzzinga technology (me)
 May - Project gets few more permies and contractors (10 in total) + 2 expensive external vendors advising on key bits
 Jun - Lots of fancy requirements, changes everywhere - vision, strategy, process
 July - £1 million spent so far. Probably 10 classes + 2 web services were developed. POC worked decently on FF and Chrome
 Aug - Project is being canned since its too difficult. A new simpler version being planned for another £500K. Contract renewed for six more months 
 
 Mar 16 - Pretty sure this will repeat The Chunt of Chunts. The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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 It really never changes, does it??Originally posted by pangeakiller View PostCurrent client.
 
 Project started in Jan
 Jan - Mar - 3 architects + 2 system analysts (high paid contractors)
 Apr - Decides they need an expensive expert on a cool buzzinga technology (me)
 May - Project gets few more permies and contractors (10 in total) + 2 expensive external vendors advising on key bits
 Jun - Lots of fancy requirements, changes everywhere - vision, strategy, process
 July - £1 million spent so far. Probably 10 classes + 2 web services were developed. POC worked decently on FF and Chrome
 Aug - Project is being canned since its too difficult. A new simpler version being planned for another £500K. Contract renewed for six more months 
 
 Mar 16 - Pretty sure this will repeat "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true." "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
 - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...Comment
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