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    #11
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Do you know anything about IR35 at all. You are a contractor taken on to do a specific task. If that task has dried up you inform the client you are invoking your notice as you have completed what you were brought in to do and leave.

    Asking for more work and being given it makes a disguised permie as you are now working out of the scope of your project.

    Contractors shouldn't be asking these questions.
    NLUK - thats a bit harsh. We see hundreds of posts on here where people moan about things being a bit slow.

    And yes specific task, not bum on seat etc etc. In an ideal world....

    If everyone bailed because of this, then 50% of contracts would go this way!
    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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      #12
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      Absolutely but this requires and understanding of your situation, process to do so and ramifications of not doing it properly. OP is nowhere near any of those yet. Even if you do there is the risk that when HMRC speak to your client he says it as it is to him. Contractor asked me for more work so gave him something else. Makes the paperwork trail a bit useless.
      When? Big IF?

      And I dont think OP mentioned his IR35 status did he? Correct me if Im wrong....
      Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
        When? Big IF?

        And I dont think OP mentioned his IR35 status did he? Correct me if Im wrong....
        He didn't but clearly show's he's new to contracting so pointing out this is something he should seriously consider and is the main reason he shouldn't go round doing this.

        NLUK - thats a bit harsh. We see hundreds of posts on here where people moan about things being a bit slow.

        And yes specific task, not bum on seat etc etc. In an ideal world....

        If everyone bailed because of this, then 50% of contracts would go this way!
        It's not harsh. It's what should be done for a number of reasons. He's new so I'm happy to quote chapter and verse so he fully understands the situation. When he's got a grasp of it and can make an informed decision based on risks etc then he can do what he wants. He's not there yet so I certainly won't be advising he cuts corners and just do it, he might be ok when he doesn't fully understand what he's doing. He'll never learn and get in worse situations in the future. It's just my style and yes it makes me look like a pompus ass!
        Last edited by northernladuk; 31 July 2015, 14:31.
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          #14
          Originally posted by eddie1507 View Post
          Recently started a new contract the work seems a little dry though and not much to do.
          I've sent an email ask if there is anything additional I can be doing but this only results in a days additional work ....
          Have you completed all work that has been outlined in your initial contract? If so then start looking for a new contract, internally and/or externally. Asking for work implies Direction and Control - as NLUK advised - which would put you firmly inside IR35 barring very exceptional circumstances.

          Originally posted by eddie1507 View Post
          I'm resistant to move as this is my first contract and close to home.

          Any ideas ?
          Welcome to the world of contracting. You can't be as choosy when you're contracting in terms of location - I've worked everything from 15 minutes from home to living away all week. It goes with the territory as the contract market fluctuates and depending on how much reserves you have to wait it out for the ideal contract offer.
          The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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            #15
            Ignore any twaddle about going home, that doesn't sound like "real world" advice to me

            When you get to know more stuff about how the company/department operates you'll be entrusted with more stuff. My suggestion would be to ask around your team in addition to the main client contact... ask what people are up to, if you can take any off their hands.

            Make a spreadsheet to calculate how many days you've earnt

            Sometimes it's easier for them for you to be on standby than for them to go through the whole hiring process every time something comes up, don't sweat it.
            ⭐️ Gold Star Contractor

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              #16
              Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
              Ignore any twaddle about going home, that doesn't sound like "real world" advice to m
              I've actually gone home when there was no work for me to do.

              I've also "gone home" when laptops haven't turned up on time. (I've actually gone shopping.)

              I've worked from home when permies have annoyed me with their office habits e.g. trying to sit on top of me. Strangely they only try it once...

              However if I'm new, have appropriate tools and actually have no work I create work for myself that helps my deliverables and this can include helping someone else.
              "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                #17
                When I started my current contract there was little for me to do for weeks as they had got me in before the project properly kicked off. Was so dull but I just busied myself with tasks for myself (designed my company website, ltd co admin etc.) and carried on billing. I'm not going to go home and not get paid just because the client are not organised to use my services and once the project got going I had plenty of work to do.

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                  #18
                  I'm not going to go home and not get paid just because the client are not organised to use my services
                  I really don't know where to start

                  Fixed that for you:-
                  just busied myself with tasks for myself (designed my company website, ltd co admin etc.) and carried on stealing.
                  The Chunt of Chunts.

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                    #19
                    I'm a consultant and the client are paying to have my knowledge on hand. It's often hard for a client to predict when they might need that knowledge and they won't get any if I'm not there to supply it. Maybe I should just sit in their office in a catatonic state until they need my expertise? Maybe you are in a role where effort can be measured by output in which case you *might* have a point.

                    The point is that the OP shouldn't get down because there is no work to do right now as at some point they'll probably be expecting 110% out of him. He just needs to keep looking busy in the meantime until he is required to jump into action. I certainly wouldn't be advising he goes home as many clients would see that negatively and get someone else more willing in to replace him.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bozwell View Post
                      I'm a consultant and the client are paying to have my knowledge on hand. It's often hard for a client to predict when they might need that knowledge and they won't get any if I'm not there to supply it. Maybe I should just sit in their office in a catatonic state until they need my expertise? Maybe you are in a role where effort can be measured by output in which case you *might* have a point.

                      The point is that the OP shouldn't get down because there is no work to do right now as at some point they'll probably be expecting 110% out of him. He just needs to keep looking busy in the meantime until he is required to jump into action. I certainly wouldn't be advising he goes home as many clients would see that negatively and get someone else more willing in to replace him.
                      But there are still lines to be drawn even as a consultant. They call consultants in to fix problems or deliver to some area they are struggling with. Just to sit there and help them out with whatever pops up they can't deal with isn't really a consultant. It's a useful resource.
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