No Notice Contract....Exit !

[northernladuk]

Well, just had a little cry in the toilet after that comment

OK let me reword. I would be very careful about signing up for 12 months with no exit clause.

Yes its worked out for the OP. BUT, and we're always banging on on this forum about meeting obligations. So you sign up for 12 months - get on site and its tulipe, work is not what they told you, client is a tosser but its too late.

I'll reword mine then. You are a risk averse idiot. Enjoy the time on the bench when you could be billing with methods of leaving regardless of notice period available.

[psychocandy]

Yet I'm not the one name calling etc on a professional forum when its been pointed out 100s of times that this is not allowed?

[SimonMac]

Yet I'm not the one name calling etc on a professional forum when its been pointed out 100s of times that this is not allowed?

Which is why he pre-fixed it with risk adverse, rather than something more colourful idiot

[NotAllThere]

12 month contract with no exit clause - wouldnt do it unless the rate was superb....

3 months fair enougjh - if its crap just dont renew.

I also think this view is somewhat less than sensible.

As far as insults etc. go, I think DaveB and NLUK's responses have been restrained, in this instance. All contributors - please return to the topic.

For the OP - negotiate, don't wriggle. Why do you wish to bail? If the reason is good enough, then client and agent might let you go as "the decent thing to do". It might even be Force Majeur. But without that piece of information, it's hard to help you further.

[Farmer jones]

Reasons to leave...

I've been on site for four and a half years.
In that time I have not received a rate rise, on the basis that I had longeivity of work.

My current rate is 40 - 65% below current market rate, due to the qualifications I now have.

I have asked for a rate rise on 3 seperate occasions, each time resulting in a No.

As part of the additional activities I am now being asked to do, one is to recruit, supervise & manage a team who have less qualifications & experience than I, but are being paid just under 50% more than I am receiveing.

A discussion around rate two weeks ago has prompted this, and I have two offers on the table at a much higher rate. I am prepared to stay, and will do so for 25% more.

Client again says no to rate rise despite senior management recognising the issue...

This is why I am on the way.

FJ

[Contreras]

I've been on site for four and a half years.
In that time I have not received a rate rise, on the basis that I had longeivity of work.

My current rate is 40 - 65% below current market rate, due to the qualifications I now have.

I have asked for a rate rise on 3 seperate occasions, each time resulting in a No.

As part of the additional activities I am now being asked to do, one is to recruit, supervise & manage a team who have less qualifications & experience than I, but are being paid just under 50% more than I am receiveing.

A discussion around rate two weeks ago has prompted this, and I have two offers on the table at a much higher rate. I am prepared to stay, and will do so for 25% more.

Client again says no to rate rise despite senior management recognising the issue...

This is why I am on the way.

FJ

You may just be doing them a favour (hint).

No client wants an unwilling contractor.

Ask about hand-over of work. Agree an end date. Confirm by email. Then TELL the agency.

[northernladuk]

I've been on site for four and a half years.
In that time I have not received a rate rise, on the basis that I had longeivity of work.

That is not grounds for a rate rise if you are still carrying out the work you are doing.

My current rate is 40 - 65% below current market rate, due to the qualifications I now have.

That you gained from this client. Same happens in permie land. You have to leave to get paid for the extra experience.

I have asked for a rate rise on 3 seperate occasions, each time resulting in a No.

As part of the additional activities I am now being asked to do, one is to recruit, supervise & manage a team who have less qualifications & experience than I, but are being paid just under 50% more than I am receiveing.

A discussion around rate two weeks ago has prompted this, and I have two offers on the table at a much higher rate. I am prepared to stay, and will do so for 25% more.

Client again says no to rate rise despite senior management recognising the issue...

This is why I am on the way.

FJ

Have you heard of IR35? If you have I presume you don't really care about it? Sounds like there is some pretty serious D&C going on there and are part and parcel if they are throwing extra work at you without changing the T&Cs. 4 years is way out of my comfort zone at a client even if I am working hard on my working conditions, which it sounds isn't the case here.

Gotta wonder why you have been there 4 years if the rate is so far of market. You must have missed out on a crap load of money whilst making yourself a very pretty IR35 target.

[BolshieBastard]

That's because you are an idiot.

So you would have turned down the 4 years of income the OP has managed to secure and will be able to leave mid contract without any hassle? Refer to my first sentence.

Dont talk daft. The OP became a permie tractor after 2 -3 years. 4 years at the same client site and that's not a red flag to you? And signing a 12 monther with no termination clause?

Wonder why after 4 years permie tractor income he now wants to ditch the client? Hmmmmmm.

[SueEllen]

Dont talk daft. The OP became a permie tractor after 2 -3 years. 4 years at the same client site and that's not a red flag to you? And signing a 12 monther with no termination clause?

Wonder why after 4 years permie tractor income he now wants to ditch the client? Hmmmmmm.

Be fair.

Until the second page no one knew the OP situation and why the OP wants to leave.

The OP could have had a family issue or a serious personality clash with a new client manager.

[northernladuk]

Dont talk daft. The OP became a permie tractor after 2 -3 years. 4 years at the same client site and that's not a red flag to you? And signing a 12 monther with no termination clause?

Wonder why after 4 years permie tractor income he now wants to ditch the client? Hmmmmmm.

Erm.. Did you not read the post above yours?