What would you need to earn to get tempted back to permie land?

[TheFaQQer]

I guess, but "cushy" and "no stress" don't really come with permie positions above a certain pay grade, say 100k for arguments sake (or even many below that). Contracting OTOH is a piece of ****.

I don't need to earn £100k a year, though. I am a man of modest means.

[alphadog]

I wouldn't consider permiedom unless I was on the bench and had unsuccessfully been looking for a new contract for couple of months.

In my sector a salary equals about half a contractors pay.

[DigitalUser]

Really - no one can put a £££ to it?

A contractor friend of mine put his number at £110k, and his current rate is in a similar bracket to your upper range. For that kind of cash I wouldn't expect an easy ride (nor, given what he's currently doing, is the market willing to pay that), and tbh, I wouldn't go perm in this country unless a) I absolutely had to e.g. out of contract for a significant period of time b) legislation such as FLC made contracting unappealing c) the opportunity was outrageous.

[jamesbrown]

I don't need to earn £100k a year, though. I am a man of modest means.

Fair enough - I guess no one does - but you can earn less and buy time off.

Anyway, I'm completely convinced that this FLC concept is going to be trotted out before long (if not this year, the budget next year). I'd be stunned if it wasn't. So you may want to start looking...

[northernladuk]

I suppose by leaving cash in the company, kaiser78 is assured it can pay his salary for a long time. 20k in the company (over and beyond any tax liabilities) will pay your low directors salary for 2 years or so.

But we are talking about his dividends from profit which he can take out and invest. Even if he runs out of company funds he can sign on and then dip in to his investments.

[yasockie]

for me it would be partner/CEO level pay, so with pension, bonuses etc I'd expect to gross above £150k at a minimum.
Like others are saying, at that level it's less about the money, more about doing interesting, variable work, making decisions etc.
I'd definitely switch for a role that was in an interesting (to me area) and allowed me to make key decisions, ideally ones that make bigger impact than me making those decision on my own.
Some of these roles are simply not available via contract and to be a key may in a larger organisation one may need to sacrifice some independence and freedom. I realise many here won't do that, but I would, under the right circumstances.

[d000hg]

If a permie job allowed me to work from home and be flexible with my hours - i.e. trust me to get on with it - I wouldn't have a big problem taking it.

[portseven]

£100k for me, plus flexibility wfh etc

[Steelman]

You get what you get paid for

Im always concerned that even if I could gaet a perm job for the salary I want (which is unlikely) the employer in question would possibly consider the salary to be MASSIVE and expect 15 hour days for the rest of my working life.

If you are offered a high salary you bet your giddy aunt you will be expected to work all hours of the working day and some hours of the non-working day. They will own you and you will be their beech.

I vaguely considered a perm recently for about a day until I realised I was getting cabin fever just thinking about it

[LondonManc]

Agree with all of that - but doesn't everyone have a price...?

It depends on your inner reason for going contracting - I prefer project-based work without the uncertainty of location of a consultancy so contracting was the obvious path.

The only way I'd consider going back into a permie role is for a different role to what I'm doing now - going from a senior BI delivery consultant to a head of BI/DW somewhere with a clear path to top table in a reasonable time frame. But that's not of interest at the moment and obviously the change in role would match the salary of what I'd expect to earn. All hypothetical and not of interest at the moment.