Y'ait? Got a call from agent A about a role in SmallTown, agent said he will talk to the client as I seem to be a good fit for the role - and never mentions the company's name. Today agent B calls about a role for a ClientCo in SmallTown too, and during the conversation we find out it's actually the same role. So agent B asks me to send the "exclusivity of representation" email, which I do. A bit later agent A is back on the phone, good news bro - they want an interview etc, to which I have to reply - is this with the ClientCo? Oh yes, indeed it is, how do you know? Well, I just have been contacted about it and sent the exclusivity thingy, sorry. Many apologies and attempts to convince the email is actually nothing later I decide to stick with the agent B - he played by the rules, what's fair is fair. So the moral is: always ask for the client name (and even better - in an email), way better for everyone involved.
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I hope agent B does not contact the client. The client might decide you are not worth the potential bother of an agent fight.
Personally I only agree in email to be represented for a particular role provided I am submitted - I have been "represented" before without being submitted! -
This is why you should never let your cv be submitted without knowing the client. No representation without information.Originally posted by mrv View Post
If the agent says they cannot tell, Id tell them sorry, you aint putting me forward, simple as.I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!
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I'll give an agency a time limit as well - you can send the CV over within the next two days, or if another agency comes along then I'm going with them.Originally posted by BolshieBastard View PostComment
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Agencies are not supposed to send your CV without permission which means they have to tell you who its gone to anyway. A few years ago I interviewed at the same client through different agencies within a week or 2 of each other.
1st interviewer rejected me for no good reason (except my flash watch
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2nd interviewer 2 weeks later different agency altogether different interviewer accepted me within a few hours same flash watch as well but the other guy got sacked as he was not hiring anyone decent for the mega project just a load of his useless mates (who also got fired same time as he did).
I told the 2nd agent about my rejection he said it would not matter as he had a better relationship with the client (he was right BTW) motto of this is never ever tell the agency more info than they need to know if you get rejected by one let the other represent you even if you signed the email saying exclusivity as you can argue quite strongly if you were rejected by the first agency you got the role with the other agency due to a better relationship between agency-client & or their rates were better for the client as well due to lower overheads.
Quite often IME a lot of these agents are all fighting over the same scraps & the ones who pressure you to send the exclusive email first are usually not the agent who will help land you the contract. Its not always about your interview skills, or technical experience-qualifications. More often than not recently agencies with lower margins & or a history with the clients will win the role as much as the contractor being a strong candidate & able to fit in & do a good job.
Never forget agents are also competing against each other just like contractors are for the same roles so the better agencies (less dishonest than most for instance
) will often make a difference when the client has to chose between similar candidates they will usually go with the agency they feel is the most professional & cheapest (which is hardly ever the eastenders barrow boy agents ).
Always wear a flash watch to the interview & make sure it dazzles the interviewer(s)
Never tell agents you have been represented by someone else already if the other agent never got you an interview usually because they were not fast enough
Never ever assume agents are honourable & trustworthy either let them demonstrate it but do not hold your breath either
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Yeah, this stuff happens, I just was not ready for it. I very rarely (if ever) get approached by more than one agency for the same role, so my agent handling skills were a bit too rusty. Still, when agent A was being upset and was telling how close he is with the hiring person and the ClientCo I chose to be the moral compass and told him I'm sticking to the things I have said and emails I have sent - knight on a white horse maybe, but in this world I only have my reputation. At least no one in a position to chastise me over anything
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That is the longest and most specific motto I've ever seen.Originally posted by uk contractor View PostComment
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Thought about getting a t-shirt made up with that on but the font would have to be too smallOriginally posted by GillsMan View Post
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Flash watch... is it 1985? I do hope you used some Old Spice too.⭐️ Gold Star ContractorComment
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