Do agencies lie in their contract postings?

[vwdan]

Having checked the CRM system both were live vacancies. To be fair the location on the Norwich job was incorrect and I will be administering geography lessons.

To post a job our staff have to have a valid client, line manager and requirement. The reference is always traceable hence I was able to quickly check this.

I can categorically state that we haven't lied about these vacancies, in answer to your question.

Fair play for answering!

As someone in the industry, is there any real value in posting fake jobs? It's pretty obvious that it goes on, and I'm sure those of who watch our bits of the market get to know the worst offenders but as an outsider I'm struggling to the see the point in amassing random CV's. Do clients really care how many CV's they have, or does it become "contractors on file"? And do clients really fall for it - surely they know it's just going to go out to market?

[Taita]

I blame the government for the state of basic education personally.

Yeah! Even Recruiters find it difficult to find the staff these days

[tractor]

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Fair play for answering!

As someone in the industry, is there any real value in posting fake jobs? It's pretty obvious that it goes on, and I'm sure those of who watch our bits of the market get to know the worst offenders but as an outsider I'm struggling to the see the point in amassing random CV's. Do clients really care how many CV's they have, or does it become "contractors on file"? And do clients really fall for it - surely they know it's just going to go out to market?

Lead harvesting. They are only interested in the last/current roles I would imagine.

[Eirikur]

I blame the government for the state of basic education personally.

In that case only hire staff with private or overseas education

[Andy Hallett]

Fair play for answering!

As someone in the industry, is there any real value in posting fake jobs? It's pretty obvious that it goes on, and I'm sure those of who watch our bits of the market get to know the worst offenders but as an outsider I'm struggling to the see the point in amassing random CV's. Do clients really care how many CV's they have, or does it become "contractors on file"? And do clients really fall for it - surely they know it's just going to go out to market?

Out and about at the moment. Will respond to your questions when I get back to the office.

[Pondlife]

I can categorically state that we haven't lied about these vacancies, in answer to your question.

Good answer.

[Andy Hallett]

Fair play for answering!

As someone in the industry, is there any real value in posting fake jobs? It's pretty obvious that it goes on, and I'm sure those of who watch our bits of the market get to know the worst offenders but as an outsider I'm struggling to the see the point in amassing random CV's. Do clients really care how many CV's they have, or does it become "contractors on file"? And do clients really fall for it - surely they know it's just going to go out to market?

Personally I don't, and never did see the value in posting fake jobs. Advertising generates a lot of incoming response on the phone and email which has to be dealt with, which generally distracts you from placing the actual roles you have. The other point to note is that it breaches all sorts of regulations and has a cost to post on job boards. Ironically one of the biggest challenges we have is getting all our jobs advertised.

In the UK we have 500+ recruitment consultants, I'd be a fool [insert your jokes here] to say it hasn't happened and won't happen. It is however very much frowned on corporately and we'll deal with it where we find it as it wrong on both regulatory and moral grounds.

[Andy Hallett]

Good answer.

To put the size of our UK business into perspective we registered 7.7k vacancies in January alone, I didn't have a chance to check through every one

[administrator]

Cheers for the comments Andy. Refreshing to see an honest viewpoint from the industry on here. Be interesting to see what some of the other agencies say about this. So come on, we know you read the forums - feel free to sign up and comment

[Taita]

Personally I don't, and never did see the value in posting fake jobs. Advertising generates a lot of incoming response on the phone and email which has to be dealt with, which generally distracts you from placing the actual roles you have. The other point to note is that it breaches all sorts of regulations and has a cost to post on job boards. Ironically one of the biggest challenges we have is getting all our jobs advertised.

In the UK we have 500+ recruitment consultants, I'd be a fool [insert your jokes here] to say it hasn't happened and won't happen. It is however very much frowned on corporately and we'll deal with it where we find it as it wrong on both regulatory and moral grounds.

And Andy can you kindly lead us to at least two instances in the last 20 years that the toothless regulatory bodies have sanctioned companies or people for fictitious advertising or other breaches of employment agency regulations (excluding gang master offences)?

I doubt you can because, despite being hounded by government for all sorts of perceived 'crimes', particularly concerning tax, contractors are a singularly UNPROTECTED species. We cannot (through lack of funds usually but also because of lack moral support from our elected representatives-MPs) even hope to successfully sue agents or clients for frequent and rampant offences.

Not even do we hear of the agency bodies ejecting members.....Why? it can't be because they are all so clean ... can it?