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Any way to work out if your CV has gone to client?

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    #11
    Originally posted by youngguy View Post
    I'm well aware this isn't new practice, but just interested in how people handle it.

    Apply for lots of gigs, don't put your faith in any of them until you've been paid from first invoice.

    Good luck.

    qh
    He had a negative bluety on a quackhandle and was quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.

    I look forward to your all knowing and likely sarcastic and unhelpful reply.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
      Clients also expect agents not to lie to them about the calibre of candidate they are putting forward i.e. if they say to the client that's the best applicants we have then it should be true.
      Absolutely, and the client then gets what the agent considers the best candidates, but potentially there are people out there who think their CV has gone when it hasn't.

      If we have to confirm in writing to an agent that they will be the sole representer for us for that role, should the agent not confirm in writing that they will definitely represent you? How it is enforced of course is the question!

      As always (NLUK said it recently I believe) the power difference between agent and contractor doesn't mean dealings are always equal. Agents hold the power up until job offer, then the power shifts to the contractor.

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        #13
        Originally posted by youngguy View Post
        I believe all are on the PSL (the JD/ad is almost identical, so they have all had the same text from the client).

        I've got no problem not being good enough, but if Agent A says they will put me forward, say today, and I tell Agent B to bugger off and I am then not put forward, I have 0% chance of getting the job. If Agent A called me tomorrow and said "we have a better chance with three others so I am not putting you forward afterall" I could at least go back to Agent B and say they can put me forward. I then have a chance of the client seeing my CV.

        I'm well aware this isn't new practice, but just interested in how people handle it.
        If they're both on the PSL and one doesn't put you forward, get the other one to do it. You can't be represented by someone who hasn't put you forward
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          #14
          Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
          If a second agency calls with the same contract I usually ask them to check with the client whether my cv was submitted or not. Most of the times they are happy to check it, if it wasn't they come back very quickly to say so.
          +1 If the first agency has put you forward, the second one (in my experience) walks away; if they haven't then the second agent come back sharpish and let you know that they can get you in there.
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            #15
            Originally posted by quackhandle View Post
            That's a good one, the amount of times I've been sitting next to a manager type on the phone to a pimp: "But what's written on his CV isn't the same idiot that turned up for the interview, what are you prats playing at?"

            qh
            Which is why you should either:
            1. Take a copy of your CV to the interview with you, OR
            2. Ask the pimp what they sent over.

            I've done both and pimps have got caught out.
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              #16
              Circa 2002-2005 I used to put a 1x1px gif in my CV's and then I would check the server for the IP address, in case they opened my CV and were connected to the Internet. Then I got bored and stopped doing it.

              Mind you, those were times when agencies used to have Intranet-only access, so it didn't work all the time.
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                #17
                Originally posted by petergriffin View Post
                Circa 2002-2005 I used to put a 1x1px gif in my CV's and then I would check the server for the IP address, in case they opened my CV and were connected to the Internet. Then I got bored and stopped doing it.

                Mind you, those were times when agencies used to have Intranet-only access, so it didn't work all the time.
                Is that one of those Homing Pixels?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by stek View Post
                  Is that one of those Homing Pixels?
                  Yes, if the image is host on your server, you can seen it's activity.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by stek View Post
                    Is that one of those Homing Pixels?
                    I have no idea what a homing pixel is. I was using a transparent 1px gif and I would 'grep' the apache logs to check the IP addresses for that pic. I should do this again, however I am not sure if the latest versions of Word would block them altogether.
                    <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by petergriffin View Post
                      I have no idea what a homing pixel is. I was using a transparent 1px gif and I would 'grep' the apache logs to check the IP addresses for that pic. I should do this again, however I am not sure if the latest versions of Word would block them altogether.
                      I believe most/all touts these days simply transpose your info into their own templates (or online CV forms) or PDF it which would probably stop all of this from working. Nice idea though!
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