Finding out agency cut - wish I didnt know now! Never ends well.

[Bunk]

Surprisingly, 4 months extension. Last time it was 2 months and they said thats it.
To be fair, I was all ready to leave in a few weeks and was expecting a month extension at most (which I was going to be knock back).
Offering me 4 months has shaken my resolve to leave a bit.

Bit of a tulipe place to work, but rate is ok, and its close to home so hey ho. Better than time on the bench, then end up with a tulipe gig miles from home I guess.

The rate hasn't changed since you found out the agent's cut. Concentrate on the fact that you were happy enough with it before you knew and forget about it for a few months.

[TheFaQQer]

Your choice old boy..... but I will be expecting the raft of moaning mails over the next few months....

KUATB

[psychocandy]

Just a question. Who do you blame for this situation?



Problem is you hate agents, well in fact everyone, so these types of situations will always end up winding you up as they are usually damned already. You call him a cheeky twat, most would call him a good agent who has pulled the wool over some silly bastards head. He's pulled this off twice and got away with it. Maybe he is good at his job and you are crap at negotiating. Your carrying on without sorting the contract will have told the agent what he needs to know about you and has rightfully had you over a barrel.

Now you have the task of getting over yourself and your hatred of agents and see if you can act professionally and continue to carry out the gig that you agreed to in a calm and professional manner. Either that or let it nark you every day so further solidifying your poor attitude towards clients and agents and potentially completely ruin the gig that you might have been happy in not knowing this...

Your choice old boy..... but I will be expecting the raft of moaning mails over the next few months....

<<sigh>>

Yes it is my fault a little for getting stitched up but Im sure Im not the first....

I hate 'most' agents. One or two are ok. This one in particular is the biggest twat Ive met in my life - for a number of reasons. But give him his due hes a clever ****er. His methods work for extracting the most he can from the situation but I would argue that it doesnt work with a long term business relationship.

Im not the only contractor who knows of this guy and like others will avoid if I can in future. There are others who I'd gladly work through again. Short term gain and all that....

And BTW - I never worked without a contract.

[northernladuk]

This one in particular is the biggest twat Ive met in my life - for a number of reasons.

Possibly but he thinks you are the best thing since sliced bread

Instead of avoiding him, which you can't if he is dealing with the gig you want, learn to play him and negotiate instead. Avoidance isn't the only way out of this.

[TheFaQQer]

The rate hasn't changed since you found out the agent's cut. Concentrate on the fact that you were happy enough with it before you knew and forget about it for a few months.

You assume he was happy with the rate beforehand. At least this is a new one from the OP - I got a 10% increase and it's not enough, I'm not happy.

Is this the start of a worrying trend?

[northernladuk]

You assume he was happy with the rate beforehand. At least this is a new one from the OP - I got a 10% increase and it's not enough, I'm not happy.

Is this the start of a worrying trend?

But he was. It says in B&W here...

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1983365

Is now plus 10% rate rise. Luverly.

[TheFaQQer]

But he was. It says in B&W here...

http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1983365

I don't believe there is anything that PC does in the contracting world that he writes about on here that makes him happy.

[psychocandy]

LOL. I like moaning.

But of course, I wake up every morning, and am happy in the knowledge im not a miserable sod like some of you lot!

[northernladuk]

I don't believe there is anything that PC does in the contracting world that he writes about on here that makes him happy.

Writing about it appears to make him happy... if that makes sense...

[sal]

Its not professional IMHO to ask client this sort of thing though. Its their business at the end of the day.

It depends on how you approach this. Going to the financial/managing director first thing the morning you arrive on site is obviously a bad choice.

If you work on projects it's easy enough to get your hands on quotes for the man hours for instance. After 3-6 months in a role i'm usually friendly enough with the middle management to ask the question directly and no, i don't consider this bad business. Bad business is getting ripped off by the middleman for 20-30% of what is paid for your services.