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    UK 'proposes customs centres on both sides of border'

    Speaking of inciting violence - party blue is going for the jugular - Little england will not be happy until the IRA are back to parking transit vans full of semtex in the high street.



    The UK has proposed creating a number of customs sites on both sides of the Irish border as a replacement to the Brexit backstop, it has been reported.

    Irish national broadcaster RTÉ has seen extracts of proposals sent from London to the European Union.


    The proposals would mean posts created on both sides of the border, potentially five to 10 miles back from the land frontier.


    The ideas are contained in documents submitted during recent EU discussions.


    In response to the story, the Irish government said it had yet to see any credible alternatives to the backstop.


    What are the Brexit backstop options?
    PM rules out Northern Ireland-only backstop
    8% of border freight 'could be checked'
    RTÉ says Prime Minister Boris Johnson has insisted Northern Ireland remain completely outside the EU's customs union for industrial goods and agri-food products.


    Under the British proposals, both the UK and EU would create what are believed to be called "customs clearance sites" but to all intents and purposes a customs post, the broadcaster reports.


    It says consignments would be checked and cleared at the sites, with data being provided to the customs authorities on both sides of the border.


    The authorities would decide on the basis of the data which truck or consignments to check.


    It is understood there could be up to 10 such sites on either side of the border.


    Also included is the proposal that goods moving from a customs clearance site on the northern side of the border to a similar site on the southern side would be monitored in real time using GPS via mobile phone data, or tracking devices placed on trucks or vans.


    The ideas are contained in one of four so-called non-papers submitted by UK officials during recent technical discussions in Brussels.


    'Out of the question'


    A spokesman for the Irish government said: "The EU Task force has indicated that any non-papers it has received from the UK to date fall well short of the agreed aims and objectives of the backstop.


    "Ireland's priorities are protecting the Good Friday Agreement, avoiding a hard border and protecting the all island economy, and protecting the EU single market and its benefits for Irish businesses and consumers."


    Sinn Féin leader Mary-Lou McDonald tweeted that the "proposal to reimpose a hard border on our island" was "out of the question".


    SDLP leader Colum Eastwood said the proposals failed to meet the UK's obligations to avoid physical infrastructure.


    "It doesn't matter if it's a mile, five miles or 10 miles away, the presence of physical checks will create economic and security challenges that are unacceptable," he said.
    source: Brexit: UK 'proposes customs centres on both sides of border' - BBC News
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    #2
    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Society will not be happy until the IRA are wiped off the face of the planet.
    Now run along little boy, time for school.
    Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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      #3
      Jeez they've not only not polished the turd, but made it smellier.
      Hard Brexit now!
      #prayfornodeal

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        #4
        Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
        Now run along little boy, time for school.
        You're becoming almost as content-free as your fellow ex-squaddie Spudpeeler.
        Although why we should expect anything else from you, I don't know.
        Last edited by sasguru; 1 October 2019, 07:38.
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #5
          Originally posted by sasguru View Post
          You're becoming almost as content-free as your fellow ex-squaddie Spudpeeler.
          Although why we should expect anything else from you, I don't know.
          Really.

          Jeezus.

          For the last month this Brexit thread has been populated by the same 4 people posting vapid rubbish that they try and pass on as fact.

          Whorty, you, scooter, darmstadt - other people sorry not to name them in person no slight intended.

          And anyone who dares oppose you just gets a barrage of abuse and self righteous pontification.

          It truly is the debating tactics of the left - we are right and if you disagree with us you are racist, sexist and stupid.

          C'mon you can all do better than this - the Brexit forum was once, briefly, a place for health intelligent debate.

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            #6
            Originally posted by original PM View Post
            Really.

            Jeezus.

            For the last month this Brexit thread has been populated by the same 4 people posting vapid rubbish that they try and pass on as fact.

            Whorty, you, scooter, darmstadt - other people sorry not to name them in person no slight intended.

            And anyone who dares oppose you just gets a barrage of abuse and self righteous pontification.

            It truly is the debating tactics of the left - we are right and if you disagree with us you are racist, sexist and stupid.

            C'mon you can all do better than this - the Brexit forum was once, briefly, a place for health intelligent debate.

            I dunno. The Brexit thread has been here for years now. And all we've got from Brexiters is useless soundbites.
            It's veered from "we hold all the cards", "a deal is the easiest thing ever" to "Remainers are talking the country down" to "Brexit means Brexit"
            And not one Brexiter has explained to me how the EU has affected them in anyway apart from the positive.
            Basically I think all Brexiters are thick as pigtulip and have been manipulated to benefit the hedge fund managers who'll make a killing out of the chaos.
            And we should make it so. I support a hard Brexit for my own purposes.
            Hard Brexit now!
            #prayfornodeal

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              #7
              Originally posted by original PM View Post
              Really.

              Jeezus.

              For the last month this Brexit thread has been populated by the same 4 people posting vapid rubbish that they try and pass on as fact.

              Whorty, you, scooter, darmstadt - other people sorry not to name them in person no slight intended.

              And anyone who dares oppose you just gets a barrage of abuse and self righteous pontification.

              It truly is the debating tactics of the left - we are right and if you disagree with us you are racist, sexist and stupid.

              C'mon you can all do better than this - the Brexit forum was once, briefly, a place for health intelligent debate.

              So what scooter posted isn't fact? Can you tell us why and what is fact?
              Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                #8
                Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                So what scooter posted isn't fact? Can you tell us why and what is fact?
                Well no of it is anything which is going to happen - it is all proposals for things which could happen - being presented as facts.

                Nowhere in the article does it actually say what definitely will happen - just here is a list of things which could happen - and in reality we have little knowledge of what the impact of those things happening actually will be in the long term.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by original PM View Post
                  C'mon you can all do better than this - the Brexit forum was once, briefly, a place for health intelligent debate.
                  In the spirit of that...

                  Without dropping any of the current red lines (no customs union etc), is there a solution to the Irish border that the EU would ever accept? Clearly brexiteers fear there isn't which is why they abhor the backstop.

                  And I suspect they're right.
                  Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by original PM View Post
                    Well no of it is anything which is going to happen - it is all proposals for things which could happen - being presented as facts.

                    Nowhere in the article does it actually say what definitely will happen - just here is a list of things which could happen - and in reality we have little knowledge of what the impact of those things happening actually will be in the long term.
                    So what do you think of the proposals, which have been leaked?
                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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