UK 'proposes customs centres on both sides of border'

[sasguru]

I'm really glad you're depressed.

I do cheer up when I contemplate what's going to happen to you and your ilk post-Brexit though

[CryingSheep]

I do cheer up when I contemplate what's going to happen to you and your ilk post-Brexit though

You're absolutely right! It kinda puts things in perspective… that and the circus the parliament has been lately! Those must be the only positive aspects of Brexit....

[sal]

Turd polished:

UK proposals for a new Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland - GOV.UK

Still no provisions for movement of people.

Odds of it being approved by EU27 and Parliament?

[meridian]

Turd polished:

UK proposals for a new Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland - GOV.UK

Still no provisions for movement of people.

Odds of it being approved by EU27 and Parliament?

At the moment, zero. It’s like they’re not even reading what they’re writing.

That means that the Northern Ireland institutions – the Assembly and the Executive – must be able to give their consent on an ongoing basis to this zone (and to the Single Electricity Market, which raises similar issues).

[Zigenare]

Turd polished:

UK proposals for a new Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland - GOV.UK

Still no provisions for movement of people.

Odds of it being approved by EU27 and Parliament?

It might help if you were to let us know "which" people. British? Irish? EU? Non-EU? Legal? Illegal? There's a whole gamut out there.

Considering Ireland didn't sign up to Schengen, how does Ireland handle its borders currently?

[sal]

It might help if you were to let us know "which" people. British? Irish? EU? Non-EU? Legal? Illegal? There's a whole gamut out there.

I will bite...

ANY people, since we are taking back control of our borders and are looking for immigration rules different from the EU. How are we going to establish if a person crossing the border from ROI to NI has the right to enter the UK.

More importantly (since the UK clearly doesn't care about the inbound traffic) how is the EU going to control who is entering the EU from NI.

[Zigenare]

I will bite...

ANY people, since we are taking back control of our borders and are looking for immigration rules different from the EU. How are we going to establish if a person crossing the border from ROI to NI has the right to enter the UK.

More importantly (since the UK clearly doesn't care about the inbound traffic) how is the EU going to control who is entering the EU from NI.

There are already agreements in place for the movement of British and Irish people between the two states. Who next?

[Old Greg]

I will bite...

ANY people, since we are taking back control of our borders and are looking for immigration rules different from the EU. How are we going to establish if a person crossing the border from ROI to NI has the right to enter the UK.

More importantly (since the UK clearly doesn't care about the inbound traffic) how is the EU going to control who is entering the EU from NI.

It isn't the EU's business who enters the RoI. The EU isn't some kind of sovereign state like the USA.

[meridian]

I will bite...

ANY people, since we are taking back control of our borders and are looking for immigration rules different from the EU. How are we going to establish if a person crossing the border from ROI to NI has the right to enter the UK.

More importantly (since the UK clearly doesn't care about the inbound traffic) how is the EU going to control who is entering the EU from NI.

Hmm, not sure why I bothered replying only a couple of hours ago to both of those.

Here’s a question for you: as a proportion of all people that enter the U.K., how many have the right to enter (and I’m using that exact word).

How many enter that don’t have a right to enter, but have the privilege of entering legally?

How many enter that have neither the right nor the privilege?

[Zigenare]

It isn't the EU's business who enters the RoI. The EU isn't some kind of sovereign state like the USA.

However...

You will need an ID card or passport if you are travelling within the European Union. And not just when you cross a border (for example, via an airport). You must also be able to show an ID card or passport if you are staying in a European country.