UK 'proposes customs centres on both sides of border'

[CryingSheep]

Lets see, I've been to 4 European countries quite recently and didn't have to show an ID card or passport. Maybe they think you look dodgy and ask just in case you're on Interpol's most wanted...

But, to be fair in any other EU country I know (except UK) the police has the right to stop you anywhere and ask for ID (for no reason), fail to provide one and you can/will be arrested until you can prove your ID!

[WTFH]

You're going to tulip the bed when you find out you can clear US customs in Ireland.

And do you understand how that works?
It’s an agreement between two countries and applies only to people, not to goods, not to services.
It works by having US customs officials based in a particular part of the airports - post security, into the US immigration area. The part of the airport where you have cleared immigration is effectively US territory.
Now to get around the physical location being US territory, they don’t call it immigration, but “Preclearance”, even though it has armed US personnel there who have the right to throw you out, should they decide to do so.

[Zigenare]

Linky?

Apologies.

Here you are!

[CryingSheep]

That's an inaccurate representation IMO. The situation was that the UK wasn't going to join Schengen and Ireland had to choose between Schengen and the CTA. Maintaining the CTA was the obvious choice to ensure free movement of people on the island of Ireland. It wasn't to please the UK. The political backlash in Ireland would have been immense.

I see you point, but if UK have joined Schengen, then Ireland could have joined too.

Since UK didn't want to join, Ireland didn't have a real choice on the matter...

[Old Greg]

However...

You will need an ID card or passport if you are travelling within the European Union. And not just when you cross a border (for example, via an airport). You must also be able to show an ID card or passport if you are staying in a European country.

Apologies.

Here you are!

Never apologise. This is CUK.

That link is a NL government describing the situation for NL citizens. It doesn't define a need for UK citizens to carry ID or passports in the RoI.

[Old Greg]

But, to be fair in any other EU country I know (except UK) the police has the right to stop you anywhere and ask for ID (for no reason), fail to provide one and you can/will be arrested until you can prove your ID!

Ireland is the same as the UK in this regard.

[Old Greg]

I see you point, but if UK have joined Schengen, then Ireland could have joined too.

Since UK didn't want to join, Ireland didn't have a real choice on the matter...

Sure. It would gave needed both states to decide to join. So what?

[Zigenare]

Never apologise. This is CUK.

That link is a NL government describing the situation for NL citizens. It doesn't define a need for UK citizens to carry ID or passports in the RoI.

Will this suffice?

On reflection, I don't recall that being the question... In fact we already have agreements in place for British and Irish transit between the two states. A fact that I mentioned earlier.

[BlueSharp]

Ireland is not in the Schengen area and never will be while they remain in the common travel area.

[Old Greg]

Will this suffice?

No.