Then what? We DO still get parliamentary prorogation but there's seemingly time to get some things through. However would the EU accept an extension if asked?
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So if Boris can't get a GE?
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So if Boris can't get a GE?
Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishing -
The EU will accept extension, just like they did in March, especially if the no-deal is taken off the table. It's a win-win for them, either the May's deal or Remain. Anyone who think there might be some better deal that Labour could negotiate is delusional. Boris got that one right - if no-deal comes off the table it's game over for the negotiations, there will be ZERO incentive for the EU to make concessions.
I doubt that even JC and his cohorts believe they can get better deal, they are only using it as a carrot to attract votes. -
Agreed, but even with no deal on the table EU won't make any (relevant) concessions, so not much difference, really...Originally posted by sal View PostThe EU will accept extension, just like they did in March, especially if the no-deal is taken off the table. It's a win-win for them, either the May's deal or Remain. Anyone who think there might be some better deal that Labour could negotiate is delusional. Boris got that one right - if no-deal comes off the table it's game over for the negotiations, there will be ZERO incentive for the EU to make concessions.
I doubt that even JC and his cohorts believe they can get better deal, they are only using it as a carrot to attract votes."The boy who cried Sheep"Comment
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Likely true, but there is always the sliver of hope and as long there is even a slight chance fro a better deal it can be exploited politically.Originally posted by CryingSheep View PostAgreed, but even with no deal on the table EU won't make any (relevant) concessions, so not much difference, really...
EU definitely don't want no-deal Brexit. The only think they want less, is to give the UK favourable leave terms/deal that can be exploited by the populist movements in other EU countries.
Removing no-deal and leaving the only 2 options May's deal or remain, removes the uncertainty for the EU, both the governments and the business there can easily plan for the 2 rather similar scenarios, so there is no rush for them to get it over.Comment
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An extension is supposed to only be allowed for reasons of material change, not just to spin it out.
Extending because an election is taking place would surely be granted, an extension because the MPs outmanoeuvred the PM who remains in power... Boris would love if they refuse, right?!Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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That would be funny... but who would decide the British vote in that matter? The PM? Dont think so...Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostWouldn't a further EU extension need unanimous approval from all 27 countries? If so then all Boris has to do is veto the proposal!
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My thoughts too. If extension offers, and parliament insists extension is taken, then Boris has to take it?Originally posted by CryingSheep View PostThat would be funny... but who would decide the British vote in that matter? The PM? Dont think so...
Imagine if he said no though! Is there still the death penalty for treason?Comment
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No, otherwise we wouldn't be in this messOriginally posted by BrilloPad View PostIs there still the death penalty for treason?
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They have already made a significant concession to the UK by extending the backstop to the whole of the UK.Originally posted by CryingSheep View PostAgreed, but even with no deal on the table EU won't make any (relevant) concessions, so not much difference, really...
The EU is expecting the UK to probably leave with no deal and then quickly come back to negotiate a Canada + agreement. They will then be told, 'Certainly, as soon as you have signed up to the backstop, the £49 billion settlement and the rights of EU citizens. Until then, bugger ye off and best of luck.'Comment
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