Freedom of movement 'will end' says the government

[original PM]

Ah, "democracy", the new word of the moment for Brexiters. Or should I be more precise and say "undemocratic"?

Now that 'Project Fear' is being proven to be project fact, leading Brexiters are having to move to a new buzzword for their disciples to hang on to. Bojo today refers to the backstop as "undemocratic", and his believers swallow it hook line and sinker - despite the fact that the backstop was signed by the democratically elected British PM (note: Bojo has not been elected by the majority in the UK, so could be argued to be undemocratic ).

I wonder if one of Bojo's worshippers could explain why the backstop is undemocratic? I can understand why people might not like it, or support it, but what makes it undemocratic?

Come on Brexiters ... change the record. No one is falling for your "undemocratic" wails

I do not think the EU is that 'undemocratic' but I do think less politicians telling us what to do instead of more is a good thing.

Also it is interesting how many of you can be bought.

[Whorty]

I do not think the EU is that 'undemocratic' but I do think less politicians telling us what to do instead of more is a good thing.

Also it is interesting how many of you can be bought.

can't argue with you there, but per population, the EU parliament is significantly smaller than Westminster ... so let's stop being hypocritical and let's reduce the number of MPs in Westminster first Oh, and sack all the Westminster unelected advisers our MPs like to surround themselves with.

[WTFH]

Also it is interesting how many of you can be bought.

When you say "you", do you mean like the DUP, or do you mean bought like those who believed £350million a week to the NHS, 70million Turks, easiest trade deal ever, etc.

[Whorty]

When you say "you", do you mean like the DUP, or do you mean bought like those who believed £350million a week to the NHS, 70million Turks, easiest trade deal ever, etc.

I think he means 'bought' as in, staying in the EU will make us better off, and leaving will make us worse off. So yes, if me wanting to stay in the EU because it makes my country better off means I'm being 'bought', I'll hold my hand up. It beats the idiots who want to leave to be worse off

[CryingSheep]

I think he means 'bought' as in, staying in the EU will make us better off, and leaving will make us worse off. So yes, if me wanting to stay in the EU because it makes my country better off means I'm being 'bought', I'll hold my hand up. It beats the idiots who want to leave to be worse off

Makes sense...

[BrilloPad]

can't argue with you there, but per population, the EU parliament is significantly smaller than Westminster ... so let's stop being hypocritical and let's reduce the number of MPs in Westminster first Oh, and sack all the Westminster unelected advisers our MPs like to surround themselves with.

Surely we can keep the bouncer from Europe's worst nightclub?

[original PM]

I think he means 'bought' as in, staying in the EU will make us better off, and leaving will make us worse off. So yes, if me wanting to stay in the EU because it makes my country better off means I'm being 'bought', I'll hold my hand up. It beats the idiots who want to leave to be worse off

And once you have been bought you have kind of lost your negotiating position?

[darmstadt]

Could a Leaver please explain this:

[CryingSheep]

Could a Leaver please explain this:

Ireland is not part of Schengen zone so a border between Germany and Ireland will still be in place after Brexit.

Obviously this won't solve the problem of a German travel to Ireland and then enter in the UK, since a German will still have free movement between Ireland and Germany. I think that British politicians believe that they can impose limitations between Ireland and the rest of Europe, since they are used to get preferential treatment from EU and do whatever they want!

I honestly believe that the main reason that Ireland stayed out of schengen area was to easy the movement between Ireland and UK, so I believe it's probably a matter of time for Ireland to join the Schengen after Brexit.

[Zigenare]

Ireland is not part of Schengen zone so a border between Germany and Ireland will still be in place after Brexit.

Obviously this won't solve the problem of a German travel to Ireland and then enter in the UK, since a German will still have free movement between Ireland and Germany. I think that British politicians believe that they can impose limitations between Ireland and the rest of Europe, since they are used to get preferential treatment from EU and do whatever they want!

I honestly believe that the main reason that Ireland stayed out of schengen area was to easy the movement between Ireland and UK, so I believe it's probably a matter of time for Ireland to join the Schengen after Brexit.

The Irish collaborating with the Germans? Heaven forfend!