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What do Brexiters want after we leave the EU?
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostAnd yet 17.4m Brits continue walking towards the mine shaft because someone told them they'd find unicorns down thereComment
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Megathread of the horrifically evil laws the EU have imposed against our will. A grand total of 72 out of 4514.
Jim Grace #FBPE on Twitter: "Brace for mega thread on "ALL THEM RULES INNIT"
There is a type of of brexiter who is motivated not by xenophobia, or Empire nostalgia, or buccaneering trade fantasies, but instead by "all them EU rules". Sadly they can never name a single one. So I have done some research..."
Highlights include:
EU: Ban on livestock growth-boosters with hormonal, thyrostatic or beta-agonist effects (carcinogenic residue in meat).
UK: Aw come on - a little bit of cancer never hurt no-one.
EU: Don't add tartaric acid to wine. And here's how tariffs on grapejuice from 3rd countries should be calculated.
UK: We LIKE adding dodgy things to wine. And the French, Spanish and Italian winemakers should do what WE say!Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostThat’s a distinct possibility. But if we’re not taken seriously by the EU, why would we be taken seriously by prospective trading partners such as China, the USA, India, etc.
Plus it solves the Irish border problem.
I'm guessing the catch is, if it were that simple, why isn't the Government pushing for this? Can the EU block our application to rejoin EFTA? Presumably not, as EFTA is completely separate and independent of the EU.His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostThe CAP has been reformed.
The CFP is just plain ridiculous. Quotas mean that if you catch the wrong type of fish, you have to chuck the whole lot overboard (unless you're Spanish, in which case you ignore the quotas). How does that preserve stocks? How is a trawler captain supposed to know what is going to end up in his nets?His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostTechnically yes. Only 40% of the EU budget goes towards subsidising inefficient farming methods, keeping prices artificially high and punishing 3rd world producers with tariffs, thereby further protecting the already subsidised farmers. That's either progress (it used to be 70%), or just dicking about, depending on your view.
The CFP is just plain ridiculous. Quotas mean that if you catch the wrong type of fish, you have to chuck the whole lot overboard (unless you're Spanish, in which case you ignore the quotas). How does that preserve stocks? How is a trawler captain supposed to know what is going to end up in his nets?
If you want dicking around, compare the CAP reductions to the entire fishing industry economic contribution. CFP is a nice drum to beat for the nationalists, but ultimately meaningless in the whole scheme of the U.K. economy.Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostThere’s certainly scope to reform CAP more, but you can’t argue that it hasn’t been reformed and then agree that in pure budget terms it’s reduced the proportional budget by nearly 50%. There have been other reforms on top, and more to come no doubt.
If you want dicking around, compare the CAP reductions to the entire fishing industry economic contribution. CFP is a nice drum to beat for the nationalists, but ultimately meaningless in the whole scheme of the U.K. economy.His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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