A dangerous, unpredictable precedent for the future

[stonehenge]

I have a feeling the ERG and DUP are going to cave.

Yep. They're going to have to accept the reality that they are not going to get the Brexit they want.

They may not like May's deal but the alternatives could be a lot worse.

Indicative votes on Wednesday might be a wakeup call.

[Yorkie62]

Yep. They're going to have to accept the reality that they are not going to get the Brexit they want.

They may not like May's deal but the alternatives could be a lot worse.

Indicative votes on Wednesday might be a wakeup call.

Indicative votes are a bit of a meaningless process. They are not binding on the government. They might show that there is no one option that has majority support. It could show that the best support is for no deal. Wouldn't that be an ironic outcome.

[NotAllThere]

All those who have been wailing for the past 2 years that it was undemocratic and nobody knew what they were voting for and etc etc etc

Maybe that is 'you' singular or maybe not

It is the 'you' plural of those on this forum who have been wailing for the past 2 years that it was undemocratic etc

Not me then. I never said the referendum was undemocratic. It was manifestly democratic. What Brexiters seem to fail to understand is that protest against majority is also fully part of democracy. But you don't. Instead you wail about. You've got a newspaper named after you.

[Amy Shrotersfield]

Indicative votes are a bit of a meaningless process. They are not binding on the government. They might show that there is no one option that has majority support. It could show that the best support is for no deal. Wouldn't that be an ironic outcome.

Yes, it does look as thought it could all boil down to binary decision at the end of the day.

No Deal or No Brexit.

Frankly, I don't see how they could justify the democratic deficit if No Brexit were to prevail.

[NotAllThere]

Yes, it does look as thought it could all boil down to binary decision at the end of the day.

No Deal or No Brexit.

Frankly, I don't see how they could justify the democratic deficit if No Brexit were to prevail.

Invade Canada to deflect attention.

[Yorkie62]

Invade Canada to deflect attention.

What and upset the French?

[Yorkie62]

It would appear that in the cold light of day that MPs are now not sure that indicative voting in the way forward. So having voted for what they want they have now decided that is it not what they want. So what do they want?

[original PM]

It would appear that in the cold light of day that MPs are now not sure that indicative voting in the way forward. So having voted for what they want they have now decided that is it not what they want. So what do they want?

Call me a cynic but I think what they want is for Brexit to go away or at least be held off long enough for them to all board the EU gravy train.

Choo Choo.

[Whorty]

Call me a cynic but I think what they want is for Brexit to go away or at least be held off long enough for them to all board the EU gravy train.

Choo Choo.

How many ex MPs go to work in the EU 'gravy train' as you call it? Apart from Kinnock, can you name any more? Or are you just making things up again?

I'm sure there are a few more, but you're suggesting all those MPs voting down May's deal (including the DUP and ERG don't forget) are doing so because they want to work in the EU going forward.

And whilst we're at it .... do you support May's deal? If you don't, and you was a Tory MP today, would you vote for, or against May's deal?

[meridian]

Call me a cynic but I think what they want is for Brexit to go away or at least be held off long enough for them to all board the EU gravy train.

Choo Choo.

How many MPs have there been since we joined the EU, and how many have left Parliament and gone to the EP or elsewhere within the EU service?

Just trying to gauge numbers that you use to justify “all”.