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    Votes to be offered to the commons

    The prime minister said she will put her withdrawal agreement - including any changes she has agreed with the EU - to a meaningful vote on 12 March.

    If that fails, MPs will be offered two separate votes:
    ◾One, on 13 March, on whether MPs support a no-deal Brexit - so the UK would "only leave without a deal on 29 March if there is explicit consent in the House for that outcome"
    ◾If that fails, then MPs will get a vote the following day on requesting an extension to the two-year Article 50 negotiation process to delay EU withdrawal beyond 29 March

    "Let me be clear, I do not want to see Article 50 extended," she told MPs.

    "Our absolute focus should be on working to get a deal and leaving on 29 March.

    What is not clear is what happens if all 3 fail to get approval in the commons. Nothing would surprise me

    #2
    Since a "no deal" Brexit has no chance of passing the slither of hope amongst Brexiteers is that all three votes fail.

    It is however a slither of hope, but something nevertheless they can cling to.

    I'm alright Jack

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      #3
      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
      Since a "no deal" Brexit has no chance of passing the slither of hope amongst Brexiteers is that all three votes fail.

      It is however a slither of hope, but something nevertheless they can cling to.

      Do you not think the order is interesting. Vote on No deal before kicking the can down the road and inject even more uncertainty into the process. If we get to voting on kicking the can down the road then it really would surprise me that it gets rejected having already rejected Mays deal and no deal.

      Which is Labours (and its supporters (SNP)) best option of bringing down the government

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        #4
        She may have shot herself in the foot a bit here.

        MPs can now vote against the withdrawal agreement without the fear of crashing out.

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          #5
          Originally posted by stonehenge View Post
          She may have shot herself in the foot a bit here.

          MPs can now vote against the withdrawal agreement without the fear of crashing out.
          She's trying to force the hand of the ERG and DUP into voting for her deal. She's seeing if they can stomach her deal more than potentially no brexit.
          I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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            #6
            Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
            Do you not think the order is interesting. Vote on No deal before kicking the can down the road and inject even more uncertainty into the process. If we get to voting on kicking the can down the road then it really would surprise me that it gets rejected having already rejected Mays deal and no deal.

            Which is Labours (and its supporters (SNP)) best option of bringing down the government
            It has to be in that order if there is to be a vote on no deal. If the MPs were to vote for a delay first a no deal vote would conflict.

            That's why it is first so she can say it was voted upon.

            It is theoretically possible for MPs to then vote against a delay but since Labour have already stated they will impose a whip on such a vote i.e. exclude a no deal, it will be unlikely.
            I'm alright Jack

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              #7
              Originally posted by stonehenge View Post
              She may have shot herself in the foot a bit here.

              MPs can now vote against the withdrawal agreement without the fear of crashing out.
              There will be no Brexit; probably via a 2nd referendum.

              The question is, should that happen, is it undemocratic?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                She's trying to force the hand of the ERG and DUP into voting for her deal. She's seeing if they can stomach her deal more than potentially no brexit.
                I suppose it may sway a few of the ERG to fall into line but I doubt it will be anywhere near enough to carry it through.

                At some point, something is going to have to give.

                What a depressing fecking mess this is.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by stonehenge View Post
                  I suppose it may sway a few of the ERG to fall into line but I doubt it will be anywhere near enough to carry it through.

                  At some point, something is going to have to give.

                  What a depressing fecking mess this is.
                  And even when the MPs vote for us not to leave with No deal on the 29th march, kicking the can down the road just kicks no deal down the road.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by stonehenge View Post
                    I suppose it may sway a few of the ERG to fall into line but I doubt it will be anywhere near enough to carry it through.

                    At some point, something is going to have to give.

                    What a depressing fecking mess this is.
                    The whole Brexit saga was caused by the Tories in order to keep the party together becasue of a few right wing rebals who were unhappy.
                    Last edited by Paddy; 26 February 2019, 16:14.
                    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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