EUSSR fifth columnists spreading false rumours about medication shortages

[Old Greg]

If you are not voting for a MP to represent your views as a member of parliament then what is the point of voting. We might as well live in a dictatorship.

NOTE the views of the voter may be aligned with the view of the political party to which a candidate is a member.

Brexit should be a free vote and MPs should vote along the lines of their constituents in this respect rather then their own views or the views of their party leaders.

So you DON'T understand the Westminster model of representative democracy. That is the model. Do you think it is equivalent to dictatorship?

[Yorkie62]

So you DON'T understand the Westminster model of representative democracy. That is the model. Do you think it is equivalent to dictatorship?

I don't dispute the model, what I am questioning is if the Westminster model of representative democracy does not represent the will of the people (in the case of Brexit) then is it a democracy or a dictatorship, or is it just not fit for purpose.

[WTFH]

If you are not voting for a MP to represent your views as a member of parliament then what is the point of voting. We might as well live in a dictatorship.

NOTE the views of the voter may be aligned with the view of the political party to which a candidate is a member.

Brexit should be a free vote and MPs should vote along the lines of their constituents in this respect rather then their own views or the views of their party leaders.

If you voted for something, and all the Tory politicians who encouraged you to vote that way then turned around and refused to stand for election as prime minister, then it should make you wonder what game they are playing - they don't want to lead the country to Brexit. They just want to blame everyone else.

[Yorkie62]

If you voted for something, and all the Tory politicians who encouraged you to vote that way then turned around and refused to stand for election as prime minister, then it should make you wonder what game they are playing - they don't want to lead the country to Brexit. They just want to blame everyone else.

I my humble opinion I think you have stated the bleeding obvious. Even Corbyn doesn't want to be PM until after the Brexit question has been sorted. You have to give May credit she has stuck to it and not run away when she has had ample opportunity to do so and when no one else, from any political persuasion has wanted to stand up, be counted, and pick up this poisoned chalis.

[original PM]

Besides they are even starting to piss off the queen or something.

Brexit latest: Queen could INTERVENE in Brexit over delay -MPs risk breaking 'SACRED DUTY' | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

(yes it's the express but it's Monday so i'm having it.)

[Yorkie62]

Besides they are even starting to piss off the queen or something.

Brexit latest: Queen could INTERVENE in Brexit over delay -MPs risk breaking 'SACRED DUTY' | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

(yes it's the express but it's Monday so i'm having it.)

Philip is driving her down from Sandringham to sort the mess out.

[Old Greg]

I don't dispute the model, what I am questioning is if the Westminster model of representative democracy does not represent the will of the people (in the case of Brexit) then is it a democracy or a dictatorship, or is it just not fit for purpose.

It is a democracy.

[Yorkie62]

It is a democracy.

In name only. There have been many dictators that have been elected in a "democratic" process. Does Vlad's recent democrstic election ring any bells here?

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[Old Greg]

In name only. There have been many dictators that have been elected in a "democratic" process. Does Vlad's recent democrstic election ring any bells here?

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It is distinguished from dictatorship, in that if the electorate don't like the current government, they can vote them out. Also, there is a free media that can criticise the government and hold them to account. It's not perfect but it is very different from dictatorship.

[WTFH]

I my humble opinion I think you have stated the bleeding obvious. Even Corbyn doesn't want to be PM until after the Brexit question has been sorted. You have to give May credit she has stuck to it and not run away when she has had ample opportunity to do so and when no one else, from any political persuasion has wanted to stand up, be counted, and pick up this poisoned chalis.

I'm stating the bleeding obvious, and that is why Brexit is doomed to failure. Until one of those who duped people into voting for Brexit is prepared to stand up and deliver it, it should not happen. They should be held responsible.

Brexit is a poisoned chalice, it was always going to be one, and yet people voted for it. Turkeys voting for Christmas and all that.