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[BlasterBates]

Brexiteer project fear

This townie Second Referendum brigade need to wake up. NOW. They are playing with fire.

The German supermarkets will be obstructed and looted while the garages of Mercedes, Volkswagen, Renault and BMW dealers will mysteriously burn down overnight. Banco Santander will have its windows smashed and be put out of action. EON and EDF vans will have their tyres slashed and USwitch will be very busy. The boycott of European goods will be ubiquitous. Irish milk and dairy produce won’t get anywhere near the UK, as a massive flare up of Unionist revolt inflames old tensions on the Northern Irish border and across Ireland. The London riots of 2011 will be small beer compared to the civil war of a reaction from disgruntled individuals who can no longer trust in the once potent “democratic will” of the British people.

Let’s imagine further … if we dare. Someone has to point out to these Second Referendum idiots the fury they are bound to unleash.

Sounds like the Brexiteers know they're about to lose.

[Whorty]

Brexiteer project fear

Sounds like the Brexiteers know they're about to lose.

They really are angry little snowflakes!

[vetran]

History is sometimes, but not always, a guide to the future.
Past bad experience usually innoculates a country against repeating a form of government, the UK has no personal experience of far-rightism going bad and is likely to try it in the future.
Especially as a reaction against the Marxist state that Corbyn will bring in.
That is what you Brexiters have wrought. There's a price to pay for abandoning the centre.

You know Germany invaded Belgium and started ethnic cleansing (in 1914!) obviously the vaccine didn't work.

Hmm lets compare votes then shall we?

Results of the 2017 General Election - BBC News
oh look no BNP/EDL

Even UKIP only got 1.8

alternatively in the enlightened EU

German elections 2017: full results | World news | The Guardian

the radical rightwing AfD has entered parliament as the third-largest party.

Sometimes you have to be glad for the lib dems & greens that saved us from such marginal parties!!!!

hmm ....

How France Voted - The New York Times

Le Penn won 42.4% in some areas.


oh look a nobrainer running round shouting la la la I'm not listening!

[sasguru]

You know Germany invaded Belgium and started ethnic cleansing (in 1914!) obviously the vaccine didn't work.

Hmm lets compare votes then shall we?

Results of the 2017 General Election - BBC News
oh look no BNP/EDL

Even UKIP only got 1.8

alternatively in the enlightened EU

German elections 2017: full results | World news | The Guardian



Sometimes you have to be glad for the lib dems & greens that saved us from such marginal parties!!!!

hmm ....

How France Voted - The New York Times

Le Penn won 42.4% in some areas.


oh look a nobrainer running round shouting la la la I'm not listening!

Indeed. Only a nobrainer would compare a first-past-the-post system with proportional rep.
Do try and join the dots, thicko.

[sasguru]

Brexiteer project fear





Sounds like the Brexiteers know they're about to lose.

Written by a puce-faced gammon farmer
I agree with him though, a no-deal will be much more fun.

[Paddy]

You know Germany invaded Belgium and started ethnic cleansing (in 1914!) obviously the vaccine didn't work...

No the British started ethnic cleansing in Australia

And let's mention during WW1 8 to 10 million starved to death in Iran under British occupation because crops were forcibly taken to feed the British Empire.

AND the British first to set up concentration camps in South Africa

The Irish famine of 1845 until 1852 which killed one fourth of the Irish population.

and a lot more.

[vetran]

Indeed. Only a nobrainer would compare a first-past-the-post system with proportional rep.
Do try and join the dots, thicko.

only a moron (oh sorry forgot it was you) would ignore the strength of public feeling demonstrated by millions of voters supporting right wing parties. Quite obviously the UK is the most right wing!

AFD = 5,878,115 votes.

Ms Le Pen 10.6 million votes

BNP 4,642 votes

I can see why you had a problem, you must have run out of toes to count.

[AtW]

UK is a two party system, if there was proportional system here (as it should be) then UKIP will probably get 20% of seats easily.

[sasguru]

UK is a two party system, if there was proportional system here (as it should be) then UKIP will probably get 20% of seats easily.

Our thicko friend doesn't understand arithmetic since his maths education stopped at 16, if in fact it got that far.

UKIP got 12.5% in 2015, similar to the Afd.

Moreover out thicko friend doesn't know that the AfD's support is concentrated in the old East Germany, which with its different history, whereby the Russians conflated Hitler and the West, has a different understanding of its past.

[vetran]

No the British started ethnic cleansing in Australia

And let's mention during WW1 8 to 10 million starved to death in Iran under British occupation because crops were forcibly taken to feed the British Empire.

AND the British first to set up concentration camps in South Africa

The Irish famine of 1845 until 1852 which killed one fourth of the Irish population.

and a lot more.

Ah so not the 2 million as generally thought but 8 - 10 million because it might support your cause. It does seem to be a matter of dispute, might be worth reading these quora discussions.

Kevin Oliver's answer to How much do people know about the great famine in Iran in 1917-19? - Quora

The British caused a famine in Iran in 1917 - 1919 which led to the deaths of at least 2 million and as much as 10 million (half of their population). Why is this ignored in historical evaluation? - Quora


Interestingly there are quite a few famines on here maybe we can blame them all on the British?

List of famines - Wikipedia

So the usual made up Bollocks, don't forget the Indian famine that is frequently blamed erroneously on Churchill.

I don't think the concentration camps set up by the British came with Gas ovens, mass graves and Dr Mengele style research or the "exterminate them all" ethos the Nazis designed them for. They were intended by the British to remove the population from the war zone so they couldn't support the Guerrilla fighters. To the best of my knowledge any deaths were incidental not the sole object of the camps.

Between 1900 and 1902, the British Empire, led by Lord Kitchener, used concentration camps.[10] At the time, they were fighting the Boer people in the Second Boer War in South Africa. At first, the British were not able to beat the Boers. They reacted by putting the Boer fighters' family members into concentration camps. They did this so these family members could not give food or help to the Boer fighters.[10] The British soldiers also burned down the Boers' houses and farms, and destroyed all the crops they could find.[10] They did this so the Boer fighters would not be able to find food or shelter anywhere.

Now did the British invent them? I suspect not, most Native Americans & Aborigines on reservations would spot the similarities to the Boer ones if they lived long enough to see them. The Spanish used them in Cuba before the Boer war.

Concentration camp - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You demean the suffering of those in Nazi ones by trying score points by blaming the British for using a pale imitation.


The Irish potato famine

Irish Potato Famine - HISTORY

was caused by Phytophthora infestans not the British Government.

Of course if only the British had taken some action, maybe provide alternative foods like corn they might not be so badly thought of?

When the crops began to fail in 1845, as a result of P. infestans infection, Irish leaders in Dublin petitioned Queen Victoria and Parliament to act—and, initially, they did, repealing the so-called “Corn Laws” and their tariffs on grain, which made food such as corn and bread prohibitively expensive.

Still, these changes failed to offset the growing problem of the potato blight. With many tenant farmers unable to produce sufficient food for their own consumption, and the costs of other supplies rising, thousands died from starvation, and hundreds of thousands more from disease caused by malnutrition.

So all you have accused the Brits of is fantasy as usual.

Yes the British were brutal but wiping out populations was bad for business. Who were going to grow the crops if you killed the natives?? So generally they didn't go for genocide.