Forget the Irish Border what about the Gibraltar Issue

[Yorkie62]

Spain in seeking clarification over whether Gibraltar is included in the Brexit deal. Apparently as far as Spain is concerned the Gibraltar issue is separate and outside the Brexit negotiations. So they want Gib to stay in the EU whilst the rest of the UK leaves. Looks like the deal could be scuppered from within the EU itself. That'll get UK politics off the hook for a while.

[AtW]

OMG they forgot about Gibraltor!!!

[Zigenare]

OMG they forgot about Gibraltor!!!

Where's that then?

If you're talking about Gibraltar then it already has a hard border.

And until the Spaniards give up "their" territories in North Africa they should be told to FROMF.

[meridian]

Gibraltar voted 96% to remain in the EU. Will of the people.

Unless it’s okay for Gibraltar to be dictated to by unelected politicians and bureaucrats in Westminster (unelected by Gibraltar), of course.

We all know how people on this board hate bullies and unelected bureaucrats poking their nose into other people’s business.....

[shaunbhoy]

Gibraltar voted 96% to remain in the EU. Will of the people.

Unless it’s okay for Gibraltar to be dictated to by unelected politicians and bureaucrats in Westminster (unelected by Gibraltar), of course.

We all know how people on this board hate bullies and unelected bureaucrats poking their nose into other people’s business.....

Indeed. All the politicians in Westminster WERE in fact democratically elected by the Electorate. Unlike, say, the members of the European Commission.
The greatest compliment we could have paid the Gibraltarians is to ensure that their wishes were considered equally alongside those of all eligible voters in the UK when the final result was announced. That is what happened.

It was the least we owed them.

HTH

[meridian]

Indeed. All the politicians in Westminster WERE in fact democratically elected by the Electorate. Unlike, say, the members of the European Commission.

Try harder, you’re comparing an elected body with the equivalent of the civil service.

The fact is, though, that none of the politicians in Westminster were elected by any residents in Gibraltar.

The greatest compliment we could have paid the Gibraltarians is to ensure that their wishes were considered equally alongside those of all eligible voters in the UK when the final result was announced. That is what happened.

It was the least we owed them.

HTH

Set them free, you know it makes sense. If they love you, they’ll come back. If they don’t, it was never meant to be.

[Zigenare]

Try harder, you’re comparing an elected body with the equivalent of the civil service.

The fact is, though, that none of the politicians in Westminster were elected by any residents in Gibraltar.




Set them free, you know it makes sense. If they love you, they’ll come back. If they don’t, it was never meant to be.

Set who free? If Spain gives up its "sovereign" territories in North Africa then maybe we should think about it.

Spain cannot be permitted to control both sides of the Straits of Gibraltar.

[shaunbhoy]

The fact is, though, that none of the politicians in Westminster were elected by any residents in Gibraltar.

But those self-same residents voted overwhelmingly, when last asked, to be subject to any and all of the decisions of the politicians in Westminster.

Set them free, you know it makes sense. If they love you, they’ll come back. If they don’t, it was never meant to be.

Not sure that they are looking to actually BE set free. But if they make such wishes known I am sure they will be welcomed by the Spanish, in true catalan stylee for any dissenters.

[darmstadt]

Set who free? If Spain gives up its "sovereign" territories in North Africa then maybe we should think about it.

Spain cannot be permitted to control both sides of the Straits of Gibraltar.

How about Britain also gives up it's 'sovereign' territories as well and why can't Spain control both sides of the Straits?

[shaunbhoy]

why can't Spain control both sides of the Straits?

Duh!! Because the populace in Gibraltar overwhelmingly wish to remain under the jurisdiction of the UK?

Fook me you're dense.