Reply to: Forget the Irish Border what about the Gibraltar Issue

[Zigenare]

To add my opinion, In mid '91 after an "altercation" with the thieving Turks and 2 days on the tarmac in Gib waiting for a flight back to Brize - I ******* hate the place. However, it's on my badge and I'll defend it against all invaders.

[BR14]

I think the Commodores penned a song about you...................."Easy!"

nah, this, by one of his countrymen

YouTube

[shaunbhoy]

So everyone who lives and works in Gibraltar is a tax dodger in your eyes.

I think the Commodores penned a song about you...................."Easy!"

[Eirikur]

Wouldn't have amended the fact that you are still a delusional halfwit.

You have just added tax-dodger to your list of faults too.

So everyone who lives and works in Gibraltar is a tax dodger in your eyes. You're so stupid you have no idea how stupid you actually are, potato peeler.

[shaunbhoy]

you forgot to say at the end of your sentence "who lived in Gibraltar for 2 years contracting at the UK's largest betting and gaming company"

Wouldn't have amended the fact that you are still a delusional halfwit.

You have just added tax-dodger to your list of faults too.

[Eirikur]

Well as someone that has travelled extensively, including Gibraltar, I feel that the wishes of over 99% of the Gibraltarians to accept the democratic wishes of the UK override the 96%.
Especially when their case is being put forward by a slackjawed knuckleheaded economic cloggie immigrant.

you forgot to say at the end of your sentence "who lived in Gibraltar for 2 years contracting at the UK's largest betting and gaming company"

[shaunbhoy]

Ah you mean it's okay for gammons who have never been abroad let alone in Gibraltar to ignore 96% of the population's wish to remain in the EU

Well as someone that has travelled extensively, including Gibraltar, I feel that the wishes of over 99% of the Gibraltarians to accept the democratic wishes of the UK override the 96%.
Especially when their case is being put forward by a slackjawed knuckleheaded economic cloggie immigrant.

[Eirikur]

Here are some salient facts for you.

The Gibraltarians made it clear that they wish to remain fully integrated with the wishes of the British Electorate.

It would be churlish in the extreme to somehow contrive to have them miss out on the wishes of the majority of voters.

HTH

Ah you mean it's okay for gammons who have never been abroad let alone in Gibraltar to ignore 96% of the population's wish to remain in the EU

[shaunbhoy]

Anyway Gib voted 96% in favour of remain. So why do gammon island based brexiteers want continental Gib to leave the EU?

The Spanish dictator, General Francisco Franco, began a campaign to force negotiations on the future of Gibraltar in the early 1950s, claiming that not only was British control of the territory since 1704 akin to colonisation, but that he had also been promised the rock by Winston Churchill during the second world war in return for not attacking British interests.

Both claims were dismissed by the British, but by 1966, under pressure from the United Nations, Spain and the UK began formal talks about the future of Gibraltar that would eventually lead to the first-ever referendum on the sovereignty of the territory.

By the time the vote came around on 10 September 1967, the electorate was presented with a simple choice: to accept Spanish sovereignty or retain the link with Britain and the crown.

Joyous celebrations
As there was no sign within Gibraltar of any popular or political movement pressing for an end to British rule, and because civil liberties in Spain under Franco were restricted, it was widely believed that the Spanish claim had little chance of success.

In the end, 44 people voted for the first option, to accept Spanish sovereignty, while 12,138 (a resounding 99.34 per cent of the electorate) voted to stay British.

Here are some salient facts for you.

The Gibraltarians made it clear that they wish to remain fully integrated with the wishes of the British Electorate.

It would be churlish in the extreme to somehow contrive to have them miss out on the wishes of the majority of voters.

HTH

[Eirikur]

Where's that then?

If you're talking about Gibraltar then it already has a hard border.

You mean just like the UK has with the EU, yes you're right for once

Anyway Gib voted 96% in favour of remain. So why do gammon island based brexiteers want continental Gib to leave the EU?

[AtW]

don't bring Scotland into your wee fantasies Ivan

All Scotland needs to do now is leave UK, join EU and clean up financial sector from ze City

[BR14]

Brexit itself in my view is a valid reason to run referendum, certainly in Scotland where vast majority voted to stay in.

don't bring Scotland into your wee fantasies Ivan

[BR14]

As for Spain controlling both sides of the straits, why should they? The Straits of Gibraltar are of strategic importance and cannot be held to ransom by any one state.

unless it's us?

[NotAllThere]

Indeed. All the politicians in Westminster WERE in fact democratically elected by the Electorate. Unlike, say, the members of the European Commission.

Since when have civil servants been elected? But you know that - this is more of you being a prat.

[AtW]

What do you think would be a valid reason to run in the case of Brexit for example the referendum again?

Brexit itself in my view is a valid reason to run referendum, certainly in Scotland where vast majority voted to stay in.