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Hard Brexit survival guide, and a silver lining

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    #11
    Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
    Drive through wedding in a Delorean.

    Made in Belfast (OK, Dunmurry)
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #12
      Originally posted by WTFH View Post
      Made in Belfast (OK, Dunmurry)
      Which is a bit of luck. No need to import from outside the UK, which is about to get a bit trickier.
      Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
        Which is a bit of luck. No need to import from outside the UK, which is about to get a bit trickier.
        They stopped production 35 years ago
        …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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          #14
          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          They stopped production 35 years ago
          Time is relative in a Delorean.
          Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
            Which is a bit of luck. No need to import from outside the UK, which is about to get a bit trickier.
            Hate to break this to you but Belfast is about to be inside the EU and England outside so there would be tariffs to pay

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              #16
              Originally posted by Batcher View Post
              Hate to break this to you but Belfast is about to be inside the EU and England outside so there would be tariffs to pay
              We'll see. What's more likely in a hard brexit, re-alignment of NI with RoI inside EU or stick with UK and hard border with RoI?
              Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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                #17
                Hard brexit as seen from the outside. EU negotiators overplayed their hand. To paraphrase David Davis earlier, negotiation's not over until it's over.

                https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ood-for-europe
                Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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                  #18
                  Hard Brexit survival guide, and a silver lining

                  Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
                  Hard brexit as seen from the outside. EU negotiators overplayed their hand. To paraphrase David Davis earlier, negotiation's not over until it's over.

                  https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...ood-for-europe
                  Probably not that much outside, Bankski and Farageski might know him quite well.....

                  Leonid Bershidsky is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist covering European politics and business. He was the founding editor of the Russian business daily Vedomosti and founded the opinion website Slon.ru.
                  Most of the paragraphs on losses and gains for the EU would come about regardless of the WA. Losses due to not receiving U.K. contributions, offset by the gains of not having to invest in the U.K. (though it is odd seeing this in mainstream print, admitting that the net loss is much smaller than £350m per week); losses and gains through FoM, etc.

                  The key position of the WA is the backstop. Everything else is comparatively window dressing. As soon as the U.K. comes up with the promised technological solution that will go, too.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by meridian View Post
                    The key position of the WA is the backstop. Everything else is comparatively window dressing. As soon as the U.K. comes up with the promised technological solution that will go, too.
                    The biggest issue with the backstop is that it requires EU permission to progress beyond it and doesn't give enough clarity over what is required to ensue EU would be willing to move on from the backstop. i.e. The UK cannot change the backstop unilaterally so are at mercy of the EU that could force the UK to remain in their pocket 'forever'.

                    I've seen it printed that this would be the first time in UK history that it was locked into such an agreement and is reminiscent to what Germany agreed to after WWI, leading to the rise of Hitler and WWII by way of breaking international law to get out of that bad deal for Germany. So a bit rich if the EU cannot see that and expect the UK to agree to similar.

                    Don't worry though, we have the 5 musketeers inside government preparing to talk May around to at least trying to get the draft wording changed so things like a technological based frictionless RoI/NI border solution (billions in IT projects, kerching ) or a free trade deal would allow the UK to progress beyond the backstop.
                    Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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                      #20
                      Hard Brexit survival guide, and a silver lining

                      Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
                      The biggest issue with the backstop is that it requires EU permission to progress beyond it and doesn't give enough clarity over what is required to ensue EU would be willing to move on from the backstop. i.e. The UK cannot change the backstop unilaterally so are at mercy of the EU that could force the UK to remain in their pocket 'forever'.

                      I've seen it printed that this would be the first time in UK history that it was locked into such an agreement and is reminiscent to what Germany agreed to after WWI, leading to the rise of Hitler and WWII by way of breaking international law to get out of that bad deal for Germany. So a bit rich if the EU cannot see that and expect the UK to agree to similar.

                      Don't worry though, we have the 5 musketeers inside government preparing to talk May around to at least trying to get the draft wording changed so things like a technological based frictionless RoI/NI border solution (billions in IT projects, kerching ) or a free trade deal would allow the UK to progress beyond the backstop.
                      No, it doesn’t require EU permission to progress. It requires agreement between the two parties to the contract, just like any other contract. Of course the U.K. can’t remove it unilaterally, it’s a border between two parties. As for the first time in history, so what? About time the U.K. got a taste of what it has imposed on other countries around the world previously. Thought we held all the cards, though?

                      As soon as the promised technological solution is invented and implemented then the U.K. is golden. And, of course, if the technological solution is not possible to deliver and/or does not do what it is promised to do, will you be holding those Brexiter politicians that say that it can be done to account?

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