A combination of a recalcitrant partner (the EU), insincere leadership (the PM) and a coterie of the population hell bent on fooking things up to frustrate the exit (remainers) have wasted the article 50 transition period. Perhaps the UK deserves to be a vassal of the EU but it won't be. Things may get very interesting from here and hopefully they're not too bloody
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Originally posted by tazdevil View PostA combination of a recalcitrant partner (the EU), insincere leadership (the PM) and a coterie of the population hell bent on fooking things up to frustrate the exit (remainers) have wasted the article 50 transition period. Perhaps the UK deserves to be a vassal of the EU but it won't be. Things may get very interesting from here and hopefully they're not too bloody
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Originally posted by tazdevil View PostA combination of arecalcitrantpartner with strong negotiating hand (the EU), insincereleadership (the PM)Brexit campaign promoting fairy tales and a coterie of the population hell bent on fooking things upto frustrate the exitno matter the cost (remainershard brexiteers) have wasted the article 50 transition period. Perhaps the UK deserves to be a vassal of the EU but it won't be. Things may get very interesting from here and hopefully they're not too bloody
Even the most hard core brexiteers agree that no-deal Brexit is baaad, the problem is they can't get a better deal than what May managed to (potentially) get. And no, imaginary trade deals and no Irish border without CU are not deals, they are wishful thinking with no basis in realityLast edited by sal; 15 November 2018, 13:34.Comment
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Originally posted by sal View PostEven the most hard core brexiteers agree that no-deal Brexit is baaad, ..
No deal is by far the best outcome, after which proper deals can be struck with both the EU and other countries.
And if the EU and or the southern Irish want a hard border, then let them sort it out on their side of the border and pay for it!Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ hereComment
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Originally posted by tazdevil View PostA combination of a recalcitrant partner (the EU), insincere leadership (the PM) and a coterie of the population hell bent on fooking things up to frustrate the exit (remainers) have wasted the article 50 transition period.
We have entered this whole affair with a PM whose heart was never really in it.
That amidst a backdrop of whining losers, all hell-bent on undermining the whole process from within for their own selfish narrow self-interests.
They have emboldened the EU from Day One with their stubborn refusal to accept the democratic wishes of the majority of the population, and in so doing have helped to put the country as a whole in a weakened bargaining position.
What we need now is to get shot of the dead woman walking and replace her with a Brexiteer with the cojones to play hardball with the EU.
It is about to get very interesting.
“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostWell said.
We have entered this whole affair with a PM whose heart was never really in it.
That amidst a backdrop of whining losers, all hell-bent on undermining the whole process from within for their own selfish narrow self-interests.
They have emboldened the EU from Day One with their stubborn refusal to accept the democratic wishes of the majority of the population, and in so doing have helped to put the country as a whole in a weakened bargaining position.
What we need now is to get shot of the dead woman walking and replace her with a Brexiteer with the cojones to play hardball with the EU.
It is about to get very interesting.
1) a hard Brexit or/
2) a GE and a Labour government
The EU are not going to give us a better deal. After 2 years of Brexit supporting negotiators working on this (Davis, then Raab) have you not learned this lesson yet? This is as good as it gets for Brexit.
So loving this. Brexiters slowly realising that there is no cake and eat it Brexit solutionI am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostWell said.
We have entered this whole affair with a PM whose heart was never really in it.
That amidst a backdrop of whining losers, all hell-bent on undermining the whole process from within for their own selfish narrow self-interests.
They have emboldened the EU from Day One with their stubborn refusal to accept the democratic wishes of the majority of the population, and in so doing have helped to put the country as a whole in a weakened bargaining position.
What we need now is to get shot of the dead woman walking and replace her with a Brexiteer with the cojones to play hardball with the EU.
It is about to get very interesting.
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Originally posted by pscont View PostYou mean majority of the voted population.
Originally posted by pscont View PostThat is why the results of the referendum should have been binding only if 50% +1 votes of total population is for it.
An argument could be made for having put in a better system requiring a clearer margin to achieve victory, but that is NOT what was put in place. Little point getting into a lather now over missed opportunities and lack of vision on the part of Cameron/Osborne.
Originally posted by pscont View PostIf they can't be arsed to vote than it is a useless exercise.“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
Well not really. But if they can't be arsed then they forfeit the right to complain about the result.Comment
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I was promised a hard one, but looking at it now, it's small, limp, laughable, and something about it stinks.Comment
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