Gammons outraged over last night of the proms betrayal

[sasguru]

what Are you all going to do when it's done (or not, as the case may be) ??

Laugh like a drain.

[PurpleGorilla]

Was strange seeing the EU flag (does it have a nick name) waved during God Save The Queen...

[NotAllThere]

..."love your neighbour".

Sounds like a great title for a sitcom.

[Yorkie62]

Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post

..."love your neighbour".

Sounds like a great title for a sitcom. Sounds like a great title for a sitcom.

Or a damn good swinging party.

[original PM]

Overture 'Neues vom Tage' - Paul Hindemith (German) - written 1929
Lelio - Fantasy on Shakespeare's 'The Tempest' - Hector Berlioz (French) - written 1831
Songs of Darkness, Dreams of Light - Roxanna Panufnik (Polish migrant, according to Brexit rules) - written by an english doom metal band in 2004 (I think)
Songs of the Sea, The Bluebird - Charles Villiers Stanford (Irish) written about 1860
Blest Pair of Sirens - Hubert Parry (British) written 1887
Suite algérienne, Op 60 - Camille Saint‐Saëns (French) written 1880
Scaramouche - Darius Milhaud (French) written 1937
Carousel – 'Soliloquy' - Richard Rodgers (USA) written 1945
Fantasia on British Sea-Songs - Henry Wood (British) written 1905
Rule, Britannia! (arr. Sargent) - Thomas Arne (British) written 1740
Pomp and Circumstance March No 1 in D major, 'Land of Hope and Glory' - Edward Elgar (British) written 1902
Jerusalem (orch. Elgar) - Hubert Parry (British) written 1808
The National Anthem (arr. Britten) written 1745
Auld Lang Syne written 1788

Number of pieces of music on the list written by a European composer since 1973 = 0

[WTFH]

not sure Blake would see a socialist organisation as his neighbour, he wasn't all that keen on the control of the church.

He wasn't all that keen on the control of the church, true and that idea of controlling people extended to his views on slavery and oppression of the poor. He was not a fan of the class warfare brought about by the wealthy ruling classes, and much of his work is about love, not hate, of freedom, not fear.

I'm not sure what of his work you see as being a dislike for socialism, in the same way that Christ's teaching was socialist which is why so many in the church today shy away from his teaching in favour of something that is easier on the ear of the selfish.

[vetran]

He wasn't all that keen on the control of the church, true and that idea of controlling people extended to his views on slavery and oppression of the poor. He was not a fan of the class warfare brought about by the wealthy ruling classes, and much of his work is about love, not hate, of freedom, not fear.

I'm not sure what of his work you see as being a dislike for socialism, in the same way that Christ's teaching was socialist which is why so many in the church today shy away from his teaching in favour of something that is easier on the ear of the selfish.

Sort of agree with organised religion, more good done by believers than organisations in my experience.

do you see the EU as socialist?

[WTFH]

Sort of agree with organised religion, more good done by believers than organisations in my experience.

do you see the EU as socialist?

In some ways yes - the four freedoms, the assistance of those in need (e.g. Cornwall, Wales, farmers, etc), the attempts to allow different people/nations to work together rather than against each other, yes those are socialist activities.
If the main actions of the EU were to encourage big businesses and aristocrats to pay little to no tax while penalising everyone else, or stirring up fear as a way to subjugate, then I'd say no.

[NotAllThere]

If the main actions of the EU were to encourage big businesses and aristocrats to pay little to no tax while penalising everyone else, or stirring up fear as a way to subjugate, then....

... it'd be just like the UK under the Tories.

[original PM]

In some ways yes - the four freedoms, the assistance of those in need (e.g. Cornwall, Wales, farmers, etc), the attempts to allow different people/nations to work together rather than against each other, yes those are socialist activities.
If the main actions of the EU were to encourage big businesses and aristocrats to pay little to no tax while penalising everyone else, or stirring up fear as a way to subjugate, then I'd say no.