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Dairy products 'may become luxuries' after UK leaves EU

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    #11
    Originally posted by tazdevil View Post
    Perhaps our supermarkets can buy from UK dairy farmers and at long last their businesses may become profitable. We could also go back to buying lots more stuff from our friends in New Zealand and elsewhere There are lots more opportunities as an independent nation rather than as a mere vassal of the EU Anyone thought what the stay alternative would be like with us being forced to join the Euro and having to take in more of the EU refugee mountain?
    Apart from your last sentence which is absolute tosh, your first part is complete rubbish.

    Firstly, farmers don’t turn raw milk into the finished product, that would require them to set up their own factories. Secondly, we don’t have enough raw milk in the U.K. to provide all our demands, we need to purchase from elsewhere and the EU is closest (important for a raw product that goes off in a matter of hours/days). Thirdly, Arla (like other dairy co-operatives) purchases raw milk at the world market price to ensure fair payments to farmers and base prices to consumers, they can’t purchase the raw product any cheaper whether they get it from NZ or Timbuktoo.

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      #12
      So according to UK government figures our nation UK raw milk production (as of 2014) was 14.6 billion litres per annum.

      http://researchbriefings.files.parli...21/SN02721.pdf Section 2

      As a population we consume approximately 100 litres per capita.

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ed-kingdom-uk/

      Now assuming a UK population of approximately 70 million that is an annual consumption of 7000 million litres of milk per annum. Approximately half of the raw milk product we produce. Therefore I put it to you that the UK is self sufficient with regard to milk production.
      Last edited by Yorkie62; 19 July 2018, 09:11.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
        So according to UK government figures our nation UK raw milk production (as of 2014) was 14.6 billion litres per annum.

        http://researchbriefings.files.parli...21/SN02721.pdf Section 2

        As a population we consume approximately 100 litres per capita.

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ed-kingdom-uk/

        Now assuming a UK population of approximately 70 million that is an annual consumption of 7000 million litres of milk per annum. Approximately half of the raw milk product we produce. Therefore I put it to you that the UK is self sufficient with regard to milk production.
        Only if all we did with the raw milk is turn it into white milk. You’re making the mistake of comparing raw milk to milk consumption.

        Dairy factories also produce cheese, yoghurt, WPC (milk powder), etc.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
          Therefore I put it to you that the UK is self sufficient with regard to milk production.
          WPC is the biggest-selling commercial product that you’ve probably not heard of. Whey Protein Concentrate, or milk powder.

          It’s sold as-is, or converted to infant formula, or to muscle supplements, or sold to Starbucks/Costa/McDonalds.

          It’s made by spraying a fine mist of homogenised milk into the top of a 4 story silo like a hair dryer, and finishes at the bottom as milk powder.

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            #15
            Originally posted by meridian View Post
            WPC is the biggest-selling commercial product that you’ve probably not heard of. Whey Protein Concentrate, or milk powder.

            It’s sold as-is, or converted to infant formula, or to muscle supplements, or sold to Starbucks/Costa/McDonalds.

            It’s made by spraying a fine mist of homogenised milk into the top of a 4 story silo like a hair dryer, and finishes at the bottom as milk powder.
            Oh well, now that you have explained that the complexities of producing this are light years ahead of our homegrown technological capabilities, your point makes perfect sense!

            “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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              #16
              Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
              Oh well, now that you have explained that the complexities of producing this are light years ahead of our homegrown technological capabilities, your point makes perfect sense!

              Welcome back! Udemy courses on “getting the point” weren’t a feature of your break?

              Nobody said it was difficult, only that we don’t produce enough of our own milk to satisfy demand.

              Take your strawmen elsewhere...

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                #17
                Wow, we might have to eat less cheese to gain democratic freedom and the ability to dominate economically and globally, rather than be Germany's bitch and cheque writer.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                  Wow, we might have to eat less cheese to gain democratic freedom and the ability to dominate economically and globally, rather than be Germany's bitch and cheque writer.
                  Oh, No! we can't give up cheese, what would the BBC programming dept do then?

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                    #19
                    Yep because that's what will happen. All trade with the EU will just stop.

                    FFS another effin scare story from pro-eu guardian. The only thing it's not pro for is white men.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                      Wow, we might have to eat less cheese to gain democratic freedom and the ability to dominate economically and globally, rather than be Germany's bitch and cheque writer.
                      Or, as the title of this thread and point of the story says, some milk based products will become a luxury that not everyone can afford. Not that the products won't be available, just that the price may exclude those less fortunate than some of us. But hey, isn't that the way quitters think? They only care about themselves, and stuff those less fortunate.
                      I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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