Brexit BOOM

[Old Greg]

That's how a proper PM spends his days. Colouring in excel cells for £650 a day.

Crap PM's make lists of tasks and try to get them done on time and in synch. Colouring in is a much greater skill.

Brexit's BRAG status is now BROWN.

[unixman]

Telling people their jobs have gone due to economic imperative is one thing. Telling them their votes have been burned is quite another. Are you volunteering to do it ?

And what do you think will happen when you go and tell a load of welders in Sunderland that their jobs have gone because the manufacturing industry has moved to the continent, because some people in London thought they were far too clever and said it was all “Project Fear”.

[Mordac]

"Ireland is in an ideal position to benefit from a new trade deal between the European Union and Mexico, the government has said."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i...deal-tx3pb9vqq


I find it incredible how the UK finds every excuse under the sun for its own failings. Something it'll continue to do long after leaving the EU.

That deal was negotiated by the EU. Ireland would not have been able to do such a deal on its own. And neither can we, until after March 29th next year. Any future deals will be in the hands of our magnificent civil servants, so I can't be as optimistic as I'd like to be, but I prefer that to a lifetime of being crapped on by Juncker and his successors.

[meridian]

Telling people their jobs have gone due to economic imperative is one thing. Telling them their votes have been burned is quite another. Are you volunteering to do it ?

I’d be happy to, the two are linked. Their votes in 2016 haven’t been burned, they are still valid. However, we now have a clear idea of the cost of their votes both on the nation, their county, and them personally.

It’s not too difficult to go back to the people to say “here you are, this is the full plan for exit and the cost to you personally (both in monetary terms and freedoms/rights), do you still want to do this?”

[meridian]

That deal was negotiated by the EU. Ireland would not have been able to do such a deal on its own. And neither can we, until after March 29th next year. Any future deals will be in the hands of our magnificent civil servants, so I can't be as optimistic as I'd like to be, but I prefer that to a lifetime of being crapped on by Juncker and his successors.

In what way were you, personally, crapped on?

[Old Greg]

In what way were you, personally, crapped on?

He has to chlorinate his own chickens.

[unixman]

Lol. Who is "we" ? The losing side from the referendum, by any chance?

I’d be happy to, the two are linked. Their votes in 2016 haven’t been burned, they are still valid. However, we now have a clear idea of the cost of their votes both on the nation, their county, and them personally.

It’s not too difficult to go back to the people to say “here you are, this is the full plan for exit and the cost to you personally (both in monetary terms and freedoms/rights), do you still want to do this?”

[Old Greg]

Lol. Who is "we" ? The losing side from the referendum, by any chance?

Correct. It is assumed that reality hasn't yet dawned for the cretins.

[sasguru]

Lol. Who is "we" ? The losing side from the referendum, by any chance?

The losing side from the referendum is the side that will get poorer after the referendum.
Will that be (1) older, poorer, poorly-educated people or (2) younger, richer, better educated people do you think?

[meridian]

Lol. Who is "we" ? The losing side from the referendum, by any chance?

Err, no, the “we” that now has a clearer view of the cost is all of us. Do pay attention.

May has made it clear that the CU + SM are out. Japanese car manufacturers have made it clear that if that is the case, then they will be moving bases to the mainland.

Put it in a withdrawal agreement and send it back to the people. If they can see the final deal and still want to leave then at least they’ve had all of the available information to confirm that decision.

It’s not much different to buying a house. The offer has gone in and been accepted, now we’ve got the survey done and there are some problems. We can either accept those costs and problems and carry on buying the house, or we can withdraw. (Note that there is no time for any renegotiation of terms, it will be either accept or withdraw).