A question to Brexiters ...

[SueEllen]

I don't.
There are too many factors, like who can afford pork, who has access to pork, who won't eat pork on principle.

I would say that many do eat pork.

How can you presume that?

Some people don't eat pork in hot countries due to the risk of worms and parasites in it - nothing to do with religion.

[NotAllThere]

But sadly it seems Nazi is now the word applied to anyone who actually quite likes the UK and its' quant little ways and idiosyncrasies .

No it's not. I quite like the UK and its quaint little ways.

Some people don't eat pork in hot countries due to the risk of worms and parasites in it - nothing to do with religion.

That's put forward as an explanation for bans on pork in Judaism and Islam. However, in Thailand, Laos and Vietnam pork is very popular. So I think it is due to religion.

[original PM]

No it's not. I quite like the UK and its quaint little ways.

That's put forward as an explanation for bans on pork in Judaism and Islam. However, in Thailand, Laos and Vietnam pork is very popular. So I think it is due to religion.

I dunno quant works as well...

[emoji55]

[glebe digital]

Why is wanting to retain the culture of your the country you were born in intolerant?

And therefore by your own logical deduction any country that is proud of it's heritage is facist?

So no more lederhosen, lager and sausage - that's culture and therefore intolerant.

No more of this praying 5 times a day lark - that's culture and therefore intolerant.

I think -as a cultural attitude- it has close ties to 'the cult of tradition' and is therefore virtually defacto fascist in it's basic outlook.

Taking pride in some mythical past (which never was in the first place) is fertile ground for all authoritarian movements.

Lederhosen, lager and sausage = smacks of the birthplace of National Socialism....hmm?

The 5 times a day brigade, who's clearest State exponent is Saudi Arabia.....not exactly a hive of liberalism.

If you're going to take pride in your cultural heritage, you have to also factor in uncomfortable things like Jimmy Saville & friends; they were cultural products just like Shakespeare, scones and cricket. If you take pride in a subset of culture which only has elements that reinforce your own romantic idealization of your own culture, you're really no different to the Nazis or the Hippies, or any other group...take you pick really.

Don't shoot me!

[Lance]

No it's not. I quite like the UK and its quaint little ways.

That's put forward as an explanation for bans on pork in Judaism and Islam. However, in Thailand, Laos and Vietnam pork is very popular. So I think it is due to religion.

Ive heard a theory that it’s because pork tastes a lot like human.
But as you say it’s only religions that ban it outright.

[meridian]

Why is wanting to retain the culture of your the country you were born in intolerant?

And therefore by your own logical deduction any country that is proud of it's heritage is facist?

So no more lederhosen, lager and sausage - that's culture and therefore intolerant.

No more of this praying 5 times a day lark - that's culture and therefore intolerant.

There’s no problem whatsoever with wanting to retain the culture of the country you were born in. I wasn’t born here and I’d love to see England, Wales, and Scotland retain their unique cultures.

The problem, dopey, is in conflating this with what Generation Identity want which is an ethnic cleansing of Europe.

What part of “white supremacism” are you finding hard to understand?

[Old Greg]

There’s no problem whatsoever with wanting to retain the culture of the country you were born in. I wasn’t born here and I’d love to see England, Wales, and Scotland retain their unique cultures.

The problem, dopey, is in conflating this with what Generation Identity want which is an ethnic cleansing of Europe.

What part of “white supremacism” are you finding hard to understand?

England has a traditional culture of tolerance and welcoming incomers. That is definitely worth reserving. Less so the traditional culture of drunken violence.

[meridian]

England has a traditional culture of tolerance and welcoming incomers. That is definitely worth reserving. Less so the traditional culture of drunken violence.

I was thinking about that the other day, especially in relation to the World Cup.

I like the blind optimism in their team, the chewed fingernails during the pool matches, the flag waving and the pints of warm beer. And then the team goes out, the majority of the country sighs resignedly and gets on with their day.

Meanwhile, a minority throw their toys out of the pram and go on a drunken violent rampage.

There must be a metaphor in there somewhere. I wonder what a Venn diagram of hooligans vs Brexiters would look like?

[darmstadt]

Gammon ingredients found

[Mordac]

So you've never used Remoaner or Snowflake? Good for you

Oh Dear, were you offended by the word "Remoaner"? Sorry, I really really am.