Question on this 2nd referendum

[WTFH]

Keep hearing calls for a referendum on the final Brexit deal. Simple question. Do these people want a balanced vote, ie:

1 Accept deal
2 Reject deal and stay in EU
3 Reject deal and leave EU

One suspects not. These "democrats" will not want the 3rd choice on the ballot paper.

Given that the original referendum didn't have three options:
1. Hard Brexit
2. Soft Brexit
3. No Brexit

Because the snowflake brexit supporters wouldn't know what to vote for unless it was written on the side of a bus

Then why not just have "Accept deal" and "Reject deal"?
Personally, if there was an option under "Reject deal" about leaving the EU, then it should include having competent negotiators from each of the departments most affected: foreign office, home office, trade & industry, defence, etc. It would also be good if the negotiators were cross-party. But that will never happen. We are a democracy where you can't just buy votes, and the DUP will have the final say.

[BlasterBates]

it's a beautiful region actually, but not sure if I would like to live there

a couple of years we drove from Sibenik down to Dubrovnik and had to pass through Albania for a leg of the journey

we stopped on a road near a bus stop because one of the children needed a wee and the bus stop sign had been shot out by a shot gun

you don't see that very often

Milan "Hammer Time" Benes.

I seem to remember from some documentary that the villages in Albania are always on the top of the hill to give the marksmen a better view.

[Uncle Albert]

it's a beautiful region actually, but not sure if I would like to live there

a couple of years we drove from Sibenik down to Dubrovnik and had to pass through Albania for a leg of the journey

we stopped on a road near a bus stop because one of the children needed a wee and the bus stop sign had been shot out by a shot gun

you don't see that very often

Milan "Hammer Time" Benes.

You've not been to Corsica then

[darmstadt]

No second referendum thank you. The UK voted out, let them live with the consequences..

we stopped on a road near a bus stop because one of the children needed a wee and the bus stop sign had been shot out by a shot gun

you don't see that very often

You do if you live in Essex

[tomtomagain]

There won't be a second referendum.

Both Labour and the Conservatives stood at the last election with a manifesto commitment to implement the result of the first one.

LibDems had a policy of re-running the vote, but they didn't do so well ...

UKIP got wiped out because they have served their purpose.

Article 50 has been invoked and the EU withdrawal bill has passed the commons, it's not clear whether A50 that can be unilaterally undone. The UK is leaving the EU on 29th March 2019. Deal or No-deal.

The Tories have spent vast amounts of political capital on this ... they are not just going to reverse their position and say "Hey, you wanna another chance to think about it?"

Labour still don't have a clear BREXIT position ( Corbyn has never been an EU supporter, he see's it as a mechanism for big-business and it puts restrictions on State aid )

There is no mechanism to stop it. It is going to happen.

For a second ref. You'd need to following:

Negotiations to have completed, with some sort of deal.

The government to completely change its position.

Legislation to be passed to allow a second ref. Then an argument about the question and then a 4 - 6 week period to actually hold the thing and because the negotiations won't finish until the last minute there won't be enough time.

[WTFH]

Labour still don't have a clear BREXIT position

Neither do the Tories, hence why negotiations are going nowhere and the likelihood of a hard brexit, hard border, return to the troubles is an ever-increasing possibility.

[BlasterBates]

Don't see a second referendum, Britain is trundling towards the exit. The transition deal is a master stroke as it gets the UK out of the door before everything turns to sh*te.

[northernladyuk]

You've not been to Corsica then

Or the United Kingdom.



https://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/...holes-1204796/

[Mordac]

Given that the original referendum didn't have three options:
1. Hard Brexit
2. Soft Brexit
3. No Brexit

Because the snowflake brexit supporters wouldn't know what to vote for unless it was written on the side of a bus

Then why not just have "Accept deal" and "Reject deal"?
Personally, if there was an option under "Reject deal" about leaving the EU, then it should include having competent negotiators from each of the departments most affected: foreign office, home office, trade & industry, defence, etc. It would also be good if the negotiators were cross-party. But that will never happen. We are a democracy where you can't just buy votes, and the DUP will have the final say.

I think you'll find most of the snowflakes voted to remain. It was us racist bastards who didn't. According to you, anyway...

[milanbenes]

Hammer Time


Milan.