Aviation safety certs

[meridian]

EC notice issued today. Unless the withdrawal agreement moves the date from March 2019, and subject to any agreed transition arrangements, all EU aviation safety certs cease to apply to the U.K. and any UK safety certs are no longer valid from that date.

https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites...ion-safety.pdf

[clearedforlanding]

I expect this will get worse then.

[Mordac]

EC notice issued today. Unless the withdrawal agreement moves the date from March 2019, and subject to any agreed transition arrangements, all EU aviation safety certs cease to apply to the U.K. and any UK safety certs are no longer valid from that date.

https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites...ion-safety.pdf

Which will affect whom? All the British carriers I can think of are already either owned by or based in other EU countries. If I'm wrong, of course, there will be lots of empty hotels in precisely the sort of places that can't afford to have them empty, which will subsequently need EU assistance. Pick the bones out of that lot, so to speak.

[BR14]

Don't fly in an ilyushin??

[meridian]

All the British carriers I can think of are already either owned by ..... other EU countries.

They’re British carriers, but owned by other countries? That makes them as British as, well, Jaguar Land Rover. ;-)

Your question is answered in the text though. It applies to organisations located in the U.K., aircraft registered in the U.K., and aircraft serviced in the U.K.

No doubt a solution will be found, but it does focus the mind somewhat on both securing a transition deal for a short-term solution, and putting into place replicant structures that are agreed with the EU before Dec 2020.

[DaveB]

Which will affect whom? All the British carriers I can think of are already either owned by or based in other EU countries. If I'm wrong, of course, there will be lots of empty hotels in precisely the sort of places that can't afford to have them empty, which will subsequently need EU assistance. Pick the bones out of that lot, so to speak.

It's not about the carriers, its about the certifications needed to fly in the EU.

example from the text :

CERTIFICATES ISSUED BY THE COMPETENT AUTHORITIES OF THE UNITED KINGDOM
Certificates issued before the withdrawal date by the competent authorities of the United Kingdom on the basis of the provisions of the Basic Regulation and its implementing rules will no longer be valid as of the withdrawal date in the EU. This concerns in particular:
Certificates of airworthiness, restricted certificates of airworthiness, permits to fly, approvals of organisations responsible for the maintenance of products, parts and appliances, approvals for organisations responsible for the manufacture of products, parts and appliances, approvals for maintenance training organisations, and certificates for personnel responsible for the release of a product, part or appliance after maintenance, issued pursuant to Article 5 of the Basic Regulation;
Pilot licences, pilot medical certificates, certificates for pilot training organisations, certificates for aero-medical centres, certificates for flight simulation training devices, certificates for persons responsible for providing flight training, flight simulation training or assessing pilots' skill, and certificates for aero medical examiners, issued pursuant to Article 7 of the Basic Regulation;
Certificates for air operators and attestations for the cabin crew, issued pursuant to Article 8 of the Basic Regulation;
Certificates for aerodromes, certificates for ATM/ANS providers, licences and medical certificates for air traffic controllers, certificates for air traffic controller training organisations, certificates for aero medical centres and aero medical examiners responsible for air traffic controllers, certificates for persons responsible for providing practical training or assessing the skills of air traffic controllers, issued pursuant to Articles 8a, 8b and 8c of the Basic Regulation.

[WTFH]

Which will affect whom? All the British carriers I can think of are already either owned by or based in other EU countries. If I'm wrong, of course, there will be lots of empty hotels in precisely the sort of places that can't afford to have them empty, which will subsequently need EU assistance. Pick the bones out of that lot, so to speak.

Is that because in your British Empire mind, the only people who fly in Europe are British?

[Mordac]

Is that because in your British Empire mind, the only people who fly in Europe are British?

No, but a lot of the tourists who fill up the hotels of Greece, Spain & Italy are British. And you can stick your patronising British Empire mind comments right up your own

[northernladyuk]

No, but a lot of the tourists who fill up the hotels of Greece, Spain & Italy are British. And you can stick your patronising British Empire mind comments right up your own

So basically, the UK holds all the cards! That's the Empire 2.0 spirit!

[darmstadt]

No, but a lot of the tourists who fill up the hotels of Greece, Spain & Italy are British. And you can stick your patronising British Empire mind comments right up your own

Well it looks like they won't be soon, what with this, the value of the GBP, visa requirements and so on. That means prices will drop and so cheaper for the rest of Europe to go there instead But don't worry:

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...eaches-resorts

https://www.roughguides.com/special-...seaside-towns/

Rubbish Seaside – Hooray for Coastal Mediocrity

https://crapdaysout.com/