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Brexit: Draft Withdrawal Agreement published!

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    #21
    Tory MP lashes out over 'pint of cold sick' Brexit transition deal

    Brexit transition: UK bows to pressure from Brussels in EU 'WALKOVER'
    I'm alright Jack

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      #22
      Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
      d) because, whatever the outcome they will not be happy with it.
      E) they’re Hard Brexiters and whatever is in the transition document doesn’t matter, once March 2019 passes then we’re out of the EU. 21 months later the transition ends and we’re on WTO rules.

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        #23
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
        It took six months and a lot of work but we’ve caved completely, says David Davis

        The seven promises that were made were:

        - A transition period will be about ‘implementing’ the future relationship, not negotiating it
        Today’s agreement shows the bulk of the future relationship will be negotiated after we have left the EU. David Davis said at today’s press conference that the transition will be “the platform upon which we build the new relationship.”
        - The UK will not pay money to the EU after March 2019
        The Government has conceded the UK will have to pay a divorce bill of around £40bn, with payments continuing until 2064. And the Prime Minister now says the UK should make “an appropriate financial contribution” for participation in a range of EU agencies.
        "For the years 2019 and 2020, in accordance with Part Four, the United Kingdom shall contribute to and participate in the implementation of the Union budgets."

        - The UK will not have to abide by EU rules during transition
        The UK will have to abide by all EU rules and regulations including those agreed by members states during transition.
        "During the transition period, where draft Union acts identify or refer directly to specific Member State authorities, procedures, or documents, the United Kingdom shall be consulted by the Union on such drafts with a view to ensuring the proper implementation and application of that act by and in the United Kingdom."

        - The UK will ‘take back control’ of fisheries policy
        The UK has backed down after the EU made access to UK waters on existing terms throughout the transition period a red line.
        “As regards the fixing of fishing opportunities within the meaning of Article 43(3) TFEU for any period falling within the transition period, the United Kingdom shall be consulted in respect of the fishing opportunities related to the United Kingdom… the Union shall offer the opportunity to the United Kingdom to provide comments on the Commission Annual Communication on fishing opportunities…”

        - Free movement will end in March 2019
        Ministers now accept that free movement will continue during transition, with the only difference being the implementation of a new registration scheme which could have been done as an EU member state. The Prime Minister also quickly backed down over her demand that new arrivals from the EU should not have the same rights as those here already.
        “Unless otherwise provided in this Agreement, Union law shall be applicable to and in the United Kingdom during the transition period.”

        - The UK will have new trade deals ready to come into force on 29 March 2019
        The UK will not have any new trade deals ready to sign because they cannot even start negotiating them until the UK has left the EU. Even during transition, the UK will not be able to implement any new trade deals. New trade deals will take many years to negotiate, and we could lose some of the deals we currently enjoy with 65 countries around the world.
        “Notwithstanding paragraph 3, during the transition period, the United Kingdom may negotiate, sign and ratify international agreements entered into in its own capacity in the areas of exclusive competence of the Union, provided those agreements do not enter into force or apply during the transition period, unless so authorised by the Union.”

        - The implementation period would last for two years and should not be time limited
        The Government has agreed to a fixed transition period of just 21 months. All this does is extend the Brexit cliff-edge until 1 January 2021 – which is no way near enough time to negotiate the future relationship.
        “There shall be a transition or implementation period, which shall start on the date of entry into force of this Agreement and end on 31 December 2020.”


        Pretty damn good at negotiating, I wonder how the UK government will get on with Russia in the not too distant future
        The EU is getting that iced on top of two cakes, so that Johnson can have one and eat the other.

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          #24
          What the fook is the point of paying millions for David Davis and his team of "negotiators"?
          They could have sent my 8 year old sprog.

          Barnier: "This is how it is .....this is what you will do".
          Sprog: "NO! <Loud tantrum>"
          Barnier: "I insist"
          Sprog: "Ok then".

          It would cost a packet of Haribos and have exactly the same result as what we've got now.
          Hard Brexit now!
          #prayfornodeal

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            #25
            Originally posted by sasguru View Post
            What the fook is the point of paying millions for David Davis and his team of "negotiators"?
            They could have sent my 8 year old sprog.

            Barnier: "This is how it is .....this is what you will do".
            Sprog: "NO! <Loud tantrum>"
            Barnier: "I insist"
            Sprog: "Ok then".

            It would cost a packet of Haribos and have exactly the same result as what we've got now.
            It is all going a bit Jewel Voice Broadcast.

            Despite the best that has been done by everyone – the gallant fighting of the military and naval forces, the diligence and assiduity of our servants of the state, and the devoted service of our one hundred million people – the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage, while the general trends of the world have all turned against her interest.

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              #26
              Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
              I wonder how the UK government will get on with Russia in the not too distant future
              With Comrade Jeremy at the helm absolutely fine, he may even legalise Russian former spy killing in the UK

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                #27
                Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
                With Comrade Jeremy at the helm absolutely fine, he may even legalise Russian former spy killing in the UK
                If Corbyn is such a Russki supporter, why do they give their money to the tories and why does JR-M invest in their banks ?
                When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by meridian View Post
                  E) they’re Hard Brexiters and whatever is in the transition document doesn’t matter, once March 2019 passes then we’re out of the EU. 21 months later the transition ends and we’re on WTO rules.
                  F) Maybe a lot of us do not give a fook - and the whole fact of Brexit has pointed out what a farce modern politics is?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by original PM View Post
                    F) Maybe a lot of us do not give a fook - and the whole fact of Brexit has pointed out what a farce modern politics is?
                    Yeah! I never cared anyway.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
                      If Corbyn is such a Russki supporter, why do they give their money to the tories and why does JR-M invest in their banks ?
                      Russia gives money to Corbyn's momentum people's army and to UKIP not to the Tories and JRM is just a Victorian moron who would still promote usage of child chimney sweeps

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