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What does Brexit mean for me?

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    What does Brexit mean for me?

    Regardless of one's position on Leave or Remain it amazes me that with 387 days until Brexit noone really has a clue about what Brexit will mean for them regardless of their sociodemographic factors.

    Is there anything concrete that we know about the impact Brexit will have on us personally- and can we list these things in a factual manner as opposed to opinion or political bias?

    #2
    Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
    Is there anything concrete that we know about the impact Brexit will have on us personally
    No

    Brexit is like God - an idealogy/faith that defies definition. If it ever gets defined we can start to anticipate impacts. The Church of Brexit has so far however relentlessly refused to say what it will be.
    "Don't part with your illusions; when they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" Mark Twain

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      #3
      I'm sure a Brexiteer will come along shortly and lay it all out in clear plain facts
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #4
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
        I'm sure a Brexiteer will come along shortly and lay it all out in clear plain facts
        Well the opportunity is here.

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          #5
          No.

          Negotiations are still underway, during which, compromises tend to happen - thus changing the outcome.

          Nothing is concrete, as MEPs can veto any deal, even if it is reached.

          Nothing is concrete, as MPs can have a meaningful vote on the deal.

          Perhaps change the question?

          HTH
          Originally posted by Old Greg
          I admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf
          ♕Keep calm & carry on♕

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            #6
            Originally posted by Bean View Post
            No.

            Negotiations are still underway, during which, compromises tend to happen - thus changing the outcome.

            Nothing is concrete, as MEPs can veto any deal, even if it is reached.

            Nothing is concrete, as MPs can have a meaningful vote on the deal.

            Perhaps change the question?

            HTH
            The only thing wrong with the question is that it seems to provoke hostility. It is a perfectly valid question.

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              #7
              Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
              The only thing wrong with the question is that it seems to provoke hostility. It is a perfectly valid question.
              It's a bit like reminding someone about a boil on their lip, that's why Brexit has been relegated to it's own forum, most don't like to be reminded it's happening.

              The money is on the government either caving in to the EU or being replaced and therefore things not changing very much, you're quite right though, if Brexit really happens, it will be a fookin' disaster.

              I'm alright Jack

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                #8
                Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
                The only thing wrong with the question is that it seems to provoke hostility. It is a perfectly valid question.
                Fair enough, although I didn't see or post any hostility...

                In that case, my answer is perfectly valid and sufficient to the original question posed.

                HTH
                Originally posted by Old Greg
                I admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf
                ♕Keep calm & carry on♕

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
                  The only thing wrong with the question is that it seems to provoke hostility.
                  The 40% who support Brexit are not fazed by this. Their view is it'll all work out OK in the long run.

                  The 60% who didn't want the huge Brexit spanner being thrown into the works are naturally very frustrated that the people who started this nonsense are leaving everybody in limbo.

                  The first possibility is we cancel Brexit. This could happen, although there would have to be a sea-change of sentiment to get to that position. In that scenario we would be either the same as now or a bit worse off, but you wouldn't notice it in the overall general decline of the country anyway.

                  The second possibility is we get a soft Brexit but the Tories have been hardening the red lines so it's difficult to imagine the EU agreeing to anything that the Tories will accept. If we had soft Brexit then things would be similar to now except the EU would most likely take the opportunity to introduce measures they haven't be able to because we were full members. They don't like our dodgy offshore tax havens, excessive financial market gambling, anonymous dealings etc. The City and the banks would be the worst hit by tightening up (eg transaction taxes).

                  The third option is Hard Brexit which is really what the Brexiteers voted for (not realizing the price they would have to pay). It has been hijacked by the Tories to become a unilateral free trade play ie we drop import tariffs despite the fact everybody else keeps theirs. People who espouse free trade are often the most protectionist and unreliable (the USA springs to mind, but don't ignore India). Hard Brexit would cause disruption and dislocation as industries collapse. We would most likely become a Mad Max or Singaporean, or Bangladesh economy - compromising standards, worker protection and any vestige of legality.

                  That said, like the 2008 Crash, these things can be like manna from heaven for contractors. I made a shed load out clearing up that mess, and I can see that happening again
                  "Don't part with your illusions; when they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" Mark Twain

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
                    Is there anything concrete that we know about the impact Brexit will have on us personally- and can we list these things in a factual manner as opposed to opinion or political bias?
                    Latest is that we will be leaving the (Digital) Single Market.
                    Theresa May confirms EU Digital Single Market exit | bit-tech.net

                    Which is great news if you own a mobile phone (company)
                    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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