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Originally posted by meridian View PostSNIP
Brexit will increase a minuscule amount of control for a reduction in economic power and influence. IMO the value of the trade off simply isn’t worth it.
Originally posted by meridian View PostSNIP
but you need to put on your big boy pants and listen if you’re being told it’s not possible or that it’s harmful.
Originally posted by meridian View PostSNIP
You’re continuing the attitude of “52% means we can do whatever we want”,
Originally posted by meridian View Postinstead of comprehending that 48% of the voting electorate plus an additional 20% of the population that are not eligible to vote still need their rights and considerations to be taken into account by their MPs. A true winner would look for a win/win solution and some compromise.
SNIP
What is an MPs job?
https://www.parliament.uk/documents/...ympenglish.pdf
"MPs have responsibilities to three main groups: their constituents, Parliament and their political party."
What is a constituent?
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...ive&gws_rd=ssl
or
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituent
"an individual voter within an electoral district (constituency)"
Originally posted by Old GregI admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf♕Keep calm & carry on♕Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostAnd therein lies the twin problems in two paragraphs....
Originally posted by meridian View PostYour middle paragraph claims that the central message of the leave campaign needs to be translated into policy, when: 1. We always had control (or at least enough that mattered) and influence.
Originally posted by meridian View PostBrexit will increase a minuscule amount of control for a reduction in economic power and influence. IMO the value of the trade off simply isn’t worth it.
Originally posted by meridian View Post2. The government appears to have no idea what Brexit means
Originally posted by meridian View PostThe government has no mandate to deliver a specific promise made by a non-governmental coalition of people.
Originally posted by meridian View PostYou want to have cake and eat it, but you need to put on your big boy pants and listen if you’re being told it’s not possible or that it’s harmful.
Originally posted by meridian View PostYour last paragraph can be summarised as “we won, you lost”.
Originally posted by meridian View PostWhich regulations (or areas of regulation) if we changed, would increase the quality of life or our trade balance?Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostWith Swiss style democracy? Or Stalin style?
Not much has changed with the rabid right wing press I see“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View Postuntil Korbyn wins the landslide election victory, then we will fully leave the EU
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Originally posted by SunnyInHades View PostWith Blair returning as adviser, after doing a public u-turn and returning to the beliefs which shaped his political career...
“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostMuch like the current crop:
28 February 2016:
Don’t be taken in by Project Fear – staying in the EU is the risky choiceComment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostPfffft. Care to share the actual article with the actual quote intended to mean as you imply? Or do you need a bus for that?
28 February 2016:
Don’t be taken in by Project Fear – staying in the EU is the risky choice
European Union (Accessions) Bill (Hansard, 21 May 2003)
I am not by any means an ultra-Eurosceptic. In some ways, I am a bit of a fan of the European Union. If we did not have one, we would invent something like it—some means of association between the sovereign states of Europe, perhaps an organisation in Brussels—overnight. I was educated at a European school. If I wanted to, I could sing the "Ode to Joy" in German.
My key point is that there are tangible benefits to our membership of the European Union. At some stage the game is up and all bets are off, as our political careers are all extinguished in one way or another. However, under the terms of the benign and beneficent Single European Act—several hon. Members have generously pointed out that it was a Conservative inspiration and that Mrs. Thatcher, as she then was, pushed forward with the extension of free market values across the European Community—I would be able to seek an alternative career as a dentist in Belgium or, with what we are inaugurating today, in Poland, Malta or any of the other accession countries."I would vote to stay in the single market," Johnson told Sky News in 2013.
"I'm in favour of the single market. I want us to be able to trade freely with our European friends and partners."
"Personally, I would like to stay in the single market," he added during a visit to Paris that year.
"We need to stay in the council of ministers of the internal market. In my view, the British have done good things for Europe."
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3370296.html“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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I thought that was the speculative crap you were alluding to (the "second" column), since I couldn't find it in the DT archive.
You definitely need a honking red bus.Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
Is you argument that, over time, more of our regulations should be governed, centrally, by the EU? Or is it simply that we'd arrived at the sunlit uplands of perfect regulatory equivalence among EU unicorns and rainbows? Over what further areas of regulation would you like us to have ceded control?Comment
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