Leaving Europe?

[BrilloPad]

Things tend to sort themselves out in the end, am optimistic it will all be good... when we are older and wiser we will be telling our grandkids how silly we were, and the fuss we made over nothing.

Older and wiser? I thought the point of getting older was to be more stupid?

Anyway I agree it will be okay in the end. However the next 15 years will be fun! It was never going to be easy to untangle us from the EU.

[fatboyslim]

Older and wiser? I thought the point of getting older was to be more stupid?

Anyway I agree it will be okay in the end. However the next 15 years will be fun! It was never going to be easy to untangle us from the EU.

Yes but I have a lot of faith in London and Brussels to be deeply corrupt, to the point that they can make any deal possible. Thankfully these people we elect have little moral or dogma, a bit of ego may be but that wont stop a good deal.
I doubt anybody is expecting business as usual, there is a price to pay for democracy, people will be a bit poorer, with less jobs around, may be for 15 years, may be bit longer. Most people, I believe are willing to pay that price, including myself.

[BlasterBates]

Yes but I have a lot of faith in London and Brussels to be deeply corrupt, to the point that they can make any deal possible. Thankfully these people we elect have little moral or dogma, a bit of ego may be but that wont stop a good deal.
I doubt anybody is expecting business as usual, there is a price to pay for democracy, people will be a bit poorer, with less jobs around, may be for 15 years, may be bit longer. Most people, I believe are willing to pay that price, including myself.

I have a feeling there are going to be some sacrifices along the way and then at the end of it all, when the prices have risen in the shops, the lorries are parked for miles and miles in Folkstone and people struggle a bit more to find those jobs, that some minister is going to make a "hard decision" on freedom of movement to get the "dirty deal" done.

[fatboyslim]

I have a feeling there are going to be some sacrifices along the way and then at the end of it all, when the prices have risen in the shops, the lorries are parked for miles and miles in Folkstone and people struggle a bit more to find those jobs, that some minister is going to make a "hard decision" on freedom of movement to get the "dirty deal" done.

Hope it does not become that desperate, and things are taken care of, before it happens.

Anyway it was a choice between leaving EU and continuing to make people more frustrated with state of the country. The later would have got uglier, leading to rise of far right parties and riots on street. Look at Europe.

This process has created an exit vent, a short term rise in racist attacks but longer term benefit of people taking ownership of country, more engaged, having animated debate about it, no matter what their views are, its very healthy for democracy.
If at the end of the process, people accept that migration is a price to pay for their prosperity, its ok. At least people will get what they wanted.

[meridian]

Anyway it was a choice between leaving EU and continuing to make people more frustrated with state of the country.

You must have had a different ballot paper to the rest of us, those weren't the two options I recall seeing.

[motoukenin]

No what he means is the UK has not left Europe - we are still geographically located in the continent of Europe - not on mainland Europe as I am sure you are still aware.

What we have done is to get rid of a bunch of politicians.

From all the activity I see happening here in Germany, the financial heart of Europe will be getting a transplant over the next 5 - 7 years, no doubt about it.

[BrilloPad]

You must have had a different ballot paper to the rest of us, those weren't the two options I recall seeing.

Who cares what options were there? People were unhappy at growing inequality and wanted to lash out.

Sadly brexit will just accelerate the growth in inequality.

[meridian]

Who cares what options were there? People were unhappy at growing inequality and wanted to lash out.

Sadly brexit will just accelerate the growth in inequality.

Will it? How do you know?

If only we had some impact assessments that might give us, the people, an idea of the various options available to us so we could decide which path we took that would be the most beneficial for us all.