Finally, we're discussing trade!

[darmstadt]

Indeed - he should just accept that European overlords know best and become a good servant.

Oh wait that's exactly why we have Brexit.

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[jamesbrown]

Looks like it will end up as a complete disaster whatever happens, so agreed no rush. Looks like sometime during the "transition" that the UK will slide into a deep recession and the big noticeable change at the end of it will be massive lorry queues in Folkstone and a very expensive limited choice of goods in the Supermarket.

That doesn’t sound like the Swiss model

[original PM]

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[Bean]

Sounds like you expect Brexit to go wrong.

Au contraire, it's what many remoaners on here consistently state as a fact, that Brexit will hit the poor the hardest.

Since you and others reiterate 'popcorn moments'/'entertainment' etc, I thought I'd ask the question (which you still haven't answered by the way, nice deflection)

Do you only enjoy the (potential - happy now?) suffering of others with regards to Brexit, or all walks of life?

[BlasterBates]

That doesn’t sound like the Swiss model

indeed, I think in the medium term if the government survives and the downturn isn't too bad, at least to begin with, it will indeed be a "Hard Brexit", for a short while, because by that time I think the government will be polling in the low 30s.

[meridian]

Indeed - he should just accept that European overlords know best and become a good servant.

Oh wait that's exactly why we have Brexit.

Serious question, how do you view the Norway model, given that this was one of the options mentioned by the Leave team pre-referendum?

[BlasterBates]

Have to say Theresa May has done a pretty good job of stopping wholesale panic of British business, by cleverly sending fudged signals about what is about to happen, but it looks to me like there could be some panic in the new year as the chickens come home to roost.

Business beginning to panic

[jamesbrown]

indeed, I think in the medium term if the government survives and the downturn isn't too bad, at least to begin with, it will indeed be a "Hard Brexit", for a short while, because by that time I think the government will be polling in the low 30s.

Let's face it, neither of us has a fecking clue what's going to happen.

But I suspect a majority of leavers and remainers can unite on this: that the EEA makes no sense at all. Basically, you can have all the rules and regulations of the EU, in substance, and one of:

1. A Say.
2. No say.

"Taking back control"

Obviously, remaining makes far more sense than EEA. Can you imagine Corbyn plus EEA? Talk about the worst of every possible world.

Of the deal options, I think it's CETA or bust. Brexit was never about preserving GDP in the short-run (the view parroted by continuity remain, i.e. "no one voted to become poorer". Yes, they bloody did).

[jamesbrown]

Serious question, how do you view the Norway model, given that this was one of the options mentioned by the Leave team pre-referendum?

It really wasn't. A lot of things were mooted on both sides, but all the leading figures in Vote Leave were emphatic about leaving the Single Market (i.e. the EEA in legalese). To say anything different is just a corruption of what happened during the campaign. It's your 350m per week.

[darmstadt]

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