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    #21
    Interesting fudge indeed, the UK will end up with EU regulations to avoid diverging from Northern Ireland and creating an internal UK border.

    interesting times, Theresa May is so desperate she'll sign anything.

    I'm alright Jack

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      #22
      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
      Interesting fudge indeed, the UK will end up with EU regulations to avoid diverging from Northern Ireland and creating an internal UK border.

      interesting times, Theresa May is so desperate she'll sign anything.

      Who will rule whether the regulations have been breached though?
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #23
        Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
        Interesting fudge indeed, the UK will end up with EU regulations to avoid diverging from Northern Ireland and creating an internal UK border.

        interesting times, Theresa May is so desperate she'll sign anything.

        For those uninitiated in EU "drafting fixes" (let's call them "mouth frothers" ), the purpose of these fixes is to provide something for everyone, in order to achieve suitable progress.

        This was always going to be a drafting fix, unlike the financial settlement and the role of the CJEU on EU27 nationals in the UK.

        By way of illustration, imagine the scenario whereby RoI diverges from the rEU, for example.

        Hey presto.

        "BUT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN!"

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          #24
          Originally posted by meridian View Post
          Depends if they have their bung from the Tories in the bank or not. If the cash has been received, then anything goes :-)
          Some of it has been received already.
          …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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            #25
            Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
            For those uninitiated in EU "drafting fixes" (let's call them "mouth frothers" ), the purpose of these fixes is to provide something for everyone, in order to achieve suitable progress.
            Sounds very one sided to me (and Nige)
            I'm alright Jack

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              #26
              16:00 Deal off, "May panicked and called Foster from EU following Sky news/MEP leaks", kicked announcement into the long grass (well to next week).

              Deal rumour - "Customs Union and Single Market For NI" Proposal

              No thanks - we 'aint aving that
              DUP Foster - "we will not accept any form of regulatory divergence"

              Yes please - we'll also have some of that
              Nicola Sturgeon - "demands Scotland gets same Brexit single market deal as Northern Ireland"
              Sadiq Khan - "If Northern Ireland stays in single market, why can't London?"
              Wales - also due to announce

              If this 'Ireland unification light by the back door' is approved there'll almost certainly be an immediate Brexiteer lead PM challenge.
              Last edited by SunnyInHades; 4 December 2017, 16:11.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                Sounds very one sided to me (and Nige)
                See my comment on mouth frothing "ultras" from both sides

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                  #28
                  What about the Gibraltar border?

                  More important then the Ireland border will be the border with Gibraltar, where 95% of the population voted to remain.
                  Currently there is a border with checks, but before that there was just a fence, people had to travel to Africa first and then come back by boat. Most bookies have their HQ's in Gib and their staff lives mainly across the border in Spain., this is going to be even more fun.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SunnyInHades View Post
                    16:00 Deal off, "May panicked and called Foster from EU following Sky news/MEP leaks", kicked announcement into the long grass (well to next week).

                    Deal rumour - "Customs Union and Single Market For NI" Proposal

                    No thanks - we 'aint aving that
                    DUP Foster - "we will not accept any form of regulatory divergence"

                    Yes please - we'll also have some of that
                    Nicola Sturgeon - "demands Scotland gets same Brexit single market deal as Northern Ireland"
                    Sadiq Khan - "If Northern Ireland stays in single market, why can't London?"
                    Wales - also due to announce

                    If this 'Ireland unification light by the back door' is approved there'll almost certainly be an immediate Brexiteer lead PM challenge.
                    I wouldn't read too much into this either. Peston et al. get over-excited because it's their job to do so, but they're frequently wrong. There will be a lot of crap for show on both sides...but the EU is fundamentally better at this game.

                    My best guess is that they will find some form of words, today, that fudges the issue suitably, mainly because it's in everyone's interests that they defer the real decision point w/r to regulatory divergence; at that point, there's real danger for May. It's best to maintain the utmost pressure for those monumental decisions. Today isn't that point. Fudge coming before 14 December IMHO...

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                      #30
                      It's one of these things (can't be fecked to source it from Twatter...)

                      Someone who understands Northern Ireland told me yesterday that the choreography would have to involve a DUP outburst not least for the Taoiseach to tell Irish voters the deal is a good one.
                      Ex cabinet minister after briefing from No10: “the DUP are absolutely seething and are not going to let this happen. And nor should they.”
                      My guess, the former. Either that or May is properly stupid.

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