Foreign meanies

[darmstadt]

[QUOTE=meridian;2498935]

There you go again, blaming the EU. The EU isn't making it more difficult, the UK is by leaving. Which comes back to the original point, which is that the EU doesn't have to form trade deals with the UK - but by not doing so they are not "making it more difficult" or "punishing" the UK, they are simply exercising their right not to enter into a deal if they don't want to.

(And by "deals" here I mean EU - UK level trade agreements, not B2B deals. Those B2B deals will still take place, but under whatever framework is finally agreed and subject to whatever tariffs, if any, apply under the new regime)

It's like banging your head against a wall sometimes! The same applies to the fact that once the UK have left then they also have to make new trade deals with all the other countries that they had through the EU. However these other countries will now, more than likely, see the UK in a position of weakness and will dictate the terms of the trade deal. It also goes to say that they may not necessarily want a trade deal with the UK, would that be punishment as well?

[northernladyuk]

[QUOTE=darmstadt;2498958]

It's like banging your head against a wall sometimes! The same applies to the fact that once the UK have left then they also have to make new trade deals with all the other countries that they had through the EU. However these other countries will now, more than likely, see the UK in a position of weakness and will dictate the terms of the trade deal. It also goes to say that they may not necessarily want a trade deal with the UK, would that be punishment as well?

Then they will have to eat inferior jam.

[vetran]

awesome new tattoo for bremoaners!

[darmstadt]

awesome new tattoo for Brextulipers!

FTFY

[woohoo]

Interesting - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...r-eu-nationals

Quoting the guardian is like quoting the daily mail. Biased rubbish.

[woohoo]

[QUOTE=darmstadt;2498958]

It's like banging your head against a wall sometimes! The same applies to the fact that once the UK have left then they also have to make new trade deals with all the other countries that they had through the EU. However these other countries will now, more than likely, see the UK in a position of weakness and will dictate the terms of the trade deal. It also goes to say that they may not necessarily want a trade deal with the UK, would that be punishment as well?

Trade deals aren't that great a thing. Basically you are saying our customers will pay more if they don't buy a product from your country. In turn your customers will do the same.

[SueEllen]

[QUOTE=woohoo;2498977]

Trade deals aren't that great a thing. Basically you are saying our customers will pay more if they don't buy a product from your country. In turn your customers will do the same.

Depends....

[darmstadt]

Trade deals aren't that great a thing. Basically you are saying our customers will pay more if they don't buy a product from your country. In turn your customers will do the same.

So if there not that great a thing, why are the Departments of Trade and Leaving the EU constantly banging on about them?

[chopper]

Hah, you think trade will just stop.

It wont 'just stop', but it will slow to a crawl. Border checks of goods passing into the EU, for example. And then vehicle type ratings for cars built in the UK will no longer be recognised. Trade in Pharmaceuticals, Chemicals and Food will also 'just end' if we leave the EU without a deal which causes them to continue to recognise UK standards.

Because the EU wont see UK standards as a carbon copy of EU standards, they'll see UK standards as third country standards. Those items will not flow freely.

Not without a very comprehensive, very extensive deal. And the EU will want the ECJ to remain supreme over those matters.

The EU will be very happy to receive those chemical and pharmaceutical companies and manufacturing plants, as well as those vehicle manufacturing plants, which currently reside in the UK.

[woohoo]

So if there not that great a thing, why are the Departments of Trade and Leaving the EU constantly banging on about them?

Because industry wants them, company a can sell into the EU knowing that company b in the USA has to charge extra. So the customer pays more.

For services its more about ensuring that you can sell your service friction free. So service company a doesn't have to have certificates if outside of the eu. Or have offices etc in country they are providing services.

So its about free market compared to a protected market. In a protected market the customers pays more because of less competition. But on the positive side the consumer pays more to subsidise industry that may be wiped out by outside competition. That's both a positive and negative.