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EU demands 44 billion to start trade negotiations

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    #51
    Originally posted by Bean View Post
    Let's revisit the question again:
    What exactly will prevent them from doing the exact same job in the offices they previously (currently) used/use?

    Remember, why do they 'need' to relocate, not 'want' - and no strawmen please
    I've already explained why multiple times, you're not interested in reading the truth!

    You only seem to see it as EU workers, not who they are working for.
    You also appear unable to read the bits about when they come to be replaced with other EU workers (due to retiring, etc) that will be a problem for the UK.

    But to try to get you to understand it:
    Is the UK Ministry of Defence based in Russia?
    Is the UK Department of Health based in China?
    Is the British Standards Institute headquartered in Japan?
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #52
      Oh FFS, pages and pages of dross.
      The fact is the EMA and EBA are going because it makes no sense for an EU org to be in a non-EU country.
      Whoever pays for the move and we could of course refuse to pay, the EU is quite rightly moving its orgs to its own member states.
      Dunno what's so hard to comprehend about that.
      Hard Brexit now!
      #prayfornodeal

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        #53
        Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
        3 of my ex-wives used that excuse.....

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          #54
          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          I've already explained why multiple times, you're not interested in reading the truth!
          No, you have stated why they want to, not why they need to - would you like the definitions of those words?

          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          You only seem to see it as EU workers, not who they are working for.
          You also appear unable to read the bits about when they come to be replaced with other EU workers (due to retiring, etc) that will be a problem for the UK.
          Do workers from non-eu countries have no ability or means to work in the UK?
          Oh, they do - so, so could EU workers by some future mechanism.....e.g. like a VISA

          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          But to try to get you to understand it:
          Is the UK Ministry of Defence based in Russia?
          Is the UK Department of Health based in China?
          Is the British Standards Institute headquartered in Japan?
          They are not currently, but what is stopping them from doing/being so?

          But to try to get you to understand it:
          Are all embassies located in the countries they are aligned to? e.g. are UK embassies all in the UK?
          No? but.....how do they work then (as that seems to be the thrust of your argument)


          So, again - why do they NEED to be moved?
          Originally posted by Old Greg
          I admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf
          ♕Keep calm & carry on♕

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            #55
            Originally posted by sasguru View Post
            Oh FFS, pages and pages of dross.
            The fact is the EMA and EBA are going because it makes no sense for an EU org to be in a non-EU country.
            Whoever pays for the move and we could of course refuse to pay, the EU is quite rightly moving its orgs to its own member states.
            Dunno what's so hard to comprehend about that.
            I've highlighted the reason for the pages of dross - the question of who pays.

            Here's my original questions;

            1. Is it acceptable or fair, that the UK is asked to pay for them and,
            2. Should the UK pay for it?
            Originally posted by Old Greg
            I admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf
            ♕Keep calm & carry on♕

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              #56
              Originally posted by Bean View Post
              But to try to get you to understand it:
              Are all embassies located in the countries they are aligned to? e.g. are UK embassies all in the UK?
              No? but.....how do they work then (as that seems to be the thrust of your argument)
              Based on you choosing Embassies, then you'd need to refer to the Vienna Convention.
              Firstly, there's no such thing as a UK Embassy, they are called British Embassies
              Secondly, any embassy is actually considered an extension of the country the embassy belongs to, and not the host country the embassy is contained within.
              So, you're wrong.

              Next, you are going to spin it to say "well why can't the EU bodies situated in the UK be made into little bits of the EU on foreign soil?
              Well, simple put because the Vienna Convention covers embassies, but doesn't cover government bodies.

              Back to you.
              …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                #57
                Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                Of course it is. The UK has decided to leave the EU so these regulatory institutions need to move.

                Therefore the UK should pay.

                Blame the leave voters not the EU, they're the ones who've caused this mess.
                Bollox. If the EU want to relocate their offices and staff, it's down to them to pay any relocation costs. Rents should be cheaper in most EU countries compared to London anyway, so in the long run they'll be saving money anyway. I'm tempted to believe you made this up to stir the pot, which is most unlike you...
                His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                  3 of my ex-wives used that excuse.....
                  yep the divorce & crazy ex analogies fit Brexit perfectly.


                  I want all the assets & for you to pay a large amount of money to maintain my lifestyle then we talk about the kids.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
                    Bollox. If the EU want to relocate their offices and staff, it's down to them to pay any relocation costs. Rents should be cheaper in most EU countries compared to London anyway, so in the long run they'll be saving money anyway. I'm tempted to believe you made this up to stir the pot, which is most unlike you...
                    will they pay back all the subsidies that they got to be based in the UK?

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                      #60
                      The side who pays will be the one who holds the worst cards and needs something from the other.
                      Could be the EU, could be the UK.
                      Whoever pays we’re going to lose out on the jobs and influence these agencies create.
                      Hard Brexit now!
                      #prayfornodeal

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