Britain has backed itself into a corner

[milanbenes]

and those pesky Europeans have taken matters into their own hands...

EU businesses start to replace British suppliers ahead of Brexit


the UK should follow suit and replace EU suppliers with, umm, yeah, umm,

Milan.

[tomtomagain]

You see. All you lot can do is imagine problems.

Whine, whine, whine, woe-is-me, we're-going-to-hell-in-a-handcart.

Doesn't that ever get boring for you? It's certainly getting boring reading it, day after day. Try imagining the sunny-uplands instead. It's much more fun.

For the record, I voted remain, but I am not going to spend the next four years moaning and complaining and trying to see the worst possible outcome in every situation. I just don't get that mindset.

Especially as the biggest moaners don't even live in the UK. That is truly bizarre.

... right back to work. I've just won a contract with a famous French company, gotta get it delivered.

BREXIT is a state of mind.

[AtW]

No. But the eastward expansion is seen as provocative by the Russians. Look how close NATO is to St Petersburg. It is simply absurd to suggest that EU expansion has contributed to Ukraine whereas the peace has been kept by NATO despite its expansion.

NATO kept peace because Russia could not attack countries in it, Ukraine and Georgia had chance in 2008 but was denied, later Russia invaded to make sure they can't join NATO (due to territorial dispute)

[northernladyuk]

Because the UK is not going to bother checking stuff. It's going to declare Dover, Southampton and Liverpool as a "Free Port".

Why would we want to introduce checks when we're planning tarrif-free trade with the World? If the EU wants to add extra checks, then they can implement those on their side of the border.

Same as the Irish border. The UK wants free movement to continue, so why would it impose border checks? If the EU doesn't want free movement to continue, it can command the Irish government to impose border controls.

Let's be accurate. The UK, Ireland and EU are all happy for free movement of people to continue across the Irish border, preserving the CTA.

When it comes to the movement of goods, the UK wants to leave the custom's union and that includes NI leaving the customs union (no special status). So the UK is introducing the change that will lead to border control for goods. The UK is then childishly saying that it is the EU's fault for wanting border controls. Ireland will of course need to control the border, just as every other customs union border is controlled. Tricky business, seeing as there are more land border crossings in Ireland than there are on the EU's eastern border, and between the USA and Canada, combined.

[AtW]

Of course it did. Just another of the awful Western policies, we should have pursued better ties with Russia.

Would NATO and the EU be entirely separate in the Russian view though? You are more likely to step in to defend a nation if you have a closer relationship with it on trade and other issues. I suspect Russia sees the EU as part of the Western threat.

Finland is in EU but not in NATO, Russia obviously sees threat in neighbours joining EU because people there will live better and that will inevitably lead to Russians demanding the same - which would be the end of KGB scum

[BlasterBates]

You see. All you lot can do is imagine problems.

Whine, whine, whine, woe-is-me, we're-going-to-hell-in-a-handcart.

Doesn't that ever get boring for you? It's certainly getting boring reading it, day after day. Try imagining the sunny-uplands instead. It's much more fun.

For the record, I voted remain, but I am not going to spend the next four years moaning and complaining and trying to see the worst possible outcome in every situation. I just don't get that mindset.

Especially as the biggest moaners don't even live in the UK. That is truly bizarre.

... right back to work. I've just won a contract with a famous French company, gotta get it delivered.

BREXIT is a state of mind.

great speech

[AtW]

Because the UK is not going to bother checking stuff. It's going to declare Dover, Southampton and Liverpool as a "Free Port".

Why would we want to introduce checks when we're planning tarrif-free trade with the World? If the EU wants to add extra checks, then they can implement those on their side of the border.

Same as the Irish border. The UK wants free movement to continue, so why would it impose border checks? If the EU doesn't want free movement to continue, it can command the Irish government to impose border controls.

AFAIK under WTO rules a country must take minimum tariffs

[northernladyuk]

You see. All you lot can do is imagine problems.

Whine, whine, whine, woe-is-me, we're-going-to-hell-in-a-handcart.

Doesn't that ever get boring for you? It's certainly getting boring reading it, day after day. Try imagining the sunny-uplands instead. It's much more fun.

For the record, I voted remain, but I am not going to spend the next four years moaning and complaining and trying to see the worst possible outcome in every situation. I just don't get that mindset.

Especially as the biggest moaners don't even live in the UK. That is truly bizarre.

... right back to work. I've just won a contract with a famous French company, gotta get it delivered.

BREXIT is a state of mind.

So is magical thinking.

[AtW]

So is magical thinking.

Brexit is like National Socialism, soon they will be bragging about year when they joined

[northernladyuk]

Brexit is like National Socialism, soon they will be bragging about year when they joined

Nigel Farage is already measuring up for a khaki shirt and a gun,