The Official Brexit Supreme Court thread.

[SueEllen]

we could be spending this money on cancer drugs etc.

Obviously triggering article 50 requires the assent of parliament. why are they arguing it?

May is delaying to ensure the Tories stay in power.

[OwlHoot]

May is delaying to ensure the Tories stay in power.

and perhaps until the French election results are known next March.

If Marine Le Pen wins that may make Brexit with favourable compromise conditions a lot easier.

[vetran]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...b056d3d56ade96

those for freedoms don't include the right to wear a burka hey Angela?

[SueEllen]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...b056d3d56ade96

those for freedoms don't include the right to wear a burka hey Angela?

I didn't realise until today that Merkel's Christian Democratic Union party are as left wing as Blair was. Hence her changing her stance every 5 minutes if it gives her power.

[Platypus]

and perhaps until the French election results are known next March.

If Marine Le Pen wins that may make Brexit with favourable compromise conditions a lot easier.

Wikipedia says: The first round of the 2017 French presidential election will be held on 23 April 2017.

I read on Guido that after 31/3/17 leaving the EU will also be subject to QMV, so it's essential that we quite before then, otherwise the EU itself can block us leaving.


EDIT:

At the moment, Article 50 allows an EU Member State to secede from the Union by giving two years notice to the relevant authorities.

However, as from 31st March 2017 – a date just FIVE months away – Article 50 will be subject to the dreaded Qualified Majority Vote (QMV)…that is to say, we will have to persuade a total of 14 EU Member States to support our (Britain's) decision to leave.

[Flashman]

Wow, it's almost like you can't believe what politicians say

It also wasn't on the ballot that Brexit would actually happen as a result of the referendum. That idea was just something in a leaflet, so if anything it's even less likely to be considered binding than what was said in Parliament.

The Government's instruction to the British people.

If the Government will not or cannot implement the decision then its General Election time.

Bring it on !

[SueEllen]

The Government's instruction to the British people.

If the Government will not or cannot implement the decision then its General Election time.

Bring it on !

The government who said that is different from the government of today.

In fact the PM who said that ran as far away from politics as you can possibly go by deliberately standing down as an MP.

[jamesbrown]

Labour were completely outplayed today

How Theresa May is trying to trap her opponents over Brexit

While May has been pretty incompetent in her handling at times, she knows the game in Parliament.

No implications for the Supreme Court case, per se, but this will be used to remind Labour (via the press) in the coming weeks.

[chopper]

I read on Guido that after 31/3/17 leaving the EU will also be subject to QMV, so it's essential that we quite before then, otherwise the EU itself can block us leaving.

I think that's a misinterpretation.

Under Article 50 TEU Qualified Majority Voting (QMV) is required to agree a withdrawal
agreement. But voting on any separate post-exit agreement would be different and could
require the unanimous agreement of EU Member States and EP consent.

The other EU Member States could reject a withdrawal agreement, but they could not stop
the UK from leaving the EU.

(http://researchbriefings.files.parli...1/CBP-7551.pdf - page 25)

[jamesbrown]

Yes, they could stop an A50 agreement, but couldn't stop departure, which happens automatically at the end of the defined period (2 years) without unanimous agreement to extend.