[Merged]Brexit stuff (part 2)

[vetran]

have that on DVD it is surprising how funny it still is.

[Paddy]

The only thing worse than sore losers are sore winners.

The only thing worse than sore losers are sore winners. They have the victory, the field is theirs, but still they scream bitter abuse at the defeated.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ill-haunt-them

The millions who know that Brexit will shrink their world have every right to be angry. The young who voted to remain because they wanted to learn, work and love where they choose, without facing restrictions on which university they could study at and which husband or wife they could bring home, have every right to be furious too. As for EU immigrants in Britain and British immigrants in the EU, it is fair to imagine them directing an emotion more intense than anger at the 17 million people who took the cold-blooded decision to risk their future happiness.

Yet, instead of seeing the losers’ anger, we are witnessing a novel and graceless phenomenon: victors’ rage. Supporters of Brexit shout about “enemies of the people” and denounce “Remoaners” with all the venom of men and women who have lost rather than won the biggest political struggle of their lives. They demand their opponents pass loyalty tests, as if we were living in a dictatorship. They do not allow you to say the referendum result betrayed our country’s best interests. They instruct you to play the hypocrite and pretend to believe what you know to be untrue. Be warned. Refuse to go along with the political correctness of the right and you will feel “the people’s” wrath.

On its own, the Leave campaigners’ victory makes the rage on the right appear baffling. But the mystery does not end there. There is a faint but real possibility that a Greek or Italian eurozone crisis, or a second wave of refugees, will vindicate their desire to quit the union. Meanwhile, although the pound has fallen and real wages are shrinking, Remainers must admit events have disproved their apocalyptic forecasts of recessions and house-price crashes – for the time being at least.

[BlasterBates]

The only thing worse than sore losers are sore winners. They have the victory, the field is theirs, but still they scream bitter abuse at the defeated.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ill-haunt-them

Hardly surprising, it's the slow realisation they were sold a pup. The "leave campaign" promised the UK would leave the single market, the customs union and not pay into the budget. But now they realise they can't deliver on that.

Liam Fox: The UK 'must look at all options' including staying in the customs union | The Independent

[sasguru]

Hardly surprising, it's the slow realisation they were sold a pup. The "leave campaign" promised the UK would leave the single market, the customs union and not pay into the budget. But now they realise they can't deliver on that.

Liam Fox: The UK 'must look at all options' including staying in the customs union | The Independent

Look's like it's penetrated even Liam's Fox thick bonce that Brexit in any meaningful way is nigh on impossible
Becoming clear by the day we're going to get a fudge.

[Paddy]

[BlasterBates]

Look's like it's penetrated even Liam's Fox thick bonce that Brexit in any meaningful way is nigh on impossible
Becoming clear by the day we're going to get a fudge.

Absolutely.

Indeed it looks like the UK will have to cave in on the freedom of movement, probably with some sort of token gesture like Switzerland, and will end up generally worse off with a weak pound, passporting lost, having to abide by EU laws but no say and higher prices at the supermarket.

This will go down in history as a truly pyrrhic victory, comparable with Napoloean's march into Moscow.

[sasguru]

Absolutely.

Indeed it looks like the UK will have to cave in on the freedom of movement, probably with some sort of token gesture like Switzerland, and will end up generally worse off with a weak pound, passporting lost, having to abide by EU laws but no say and higher prices at the supermarket.

This will go down in history as a truly pyrrhic victory, comparable with Napoloean's march into Moscow.

Even the undisputed reigning champion village idiot of CUK, GB9, posted on here the other day that he wants a "Medium Brexit" whatever the fook that is.
Feck me, I'm beginning to think it hardly matters what sort of Brexit takes place of even no Brexit - we've bred so many thickos, the relative decline of the country is all but guaranteed.

[original PM]

I think sometimes the point is being missed.

It's like the company who have been working with the large consultancy for the last 5 years and it is getting to delivery and everyone realises they have just spent loads of money, have loads of paperwork and are nowhere near a solution.

So we can either
1) Remain with the large consultancy and plough more money into it.
2) Break up the partnership and go it alone/bring it in house/look at other options.

We collectively voted for 2

And what do we see now

1) £50 Billion 'divorce' payment? what?
2) Our Leader being shunned by the rest of the EU politicians - how mature.
3) People with vested interests spouting pap to get their own way because they have vested interests.

[sasguru]

I think sometimes the point is being missed.

It's like the company who have been working with the large consultancy for the last 5 years and it is getting to delivery and everyone realises they have just spent loads of money, have loads of paperwork and are nowhere near a solution.

So we can either
1) Remain with the large consultancy and plough more money into it.
2) Break up the partnership and go it alone/bring it in house/look at other options.

We collectively voted for 2

And what do we see now

1) £50 Billion 'divorce' payment? what?
2) Our Leader being shunned by the rest of the EU politicians - how mature.
3) People with vested interests spouting pap to get their own way because they have vested interests.

Of course those who voted for 2 were mainly so innumerate and ignorant that, to continue your analogy, they didn't conduct due diligence and overlooked the fact that the company was up to its eyebrows in debt, produced very little and relied on said consultancy for half its business.
Honestly I think its a shame hard Brexit seems to be off the table, now that even the arch-imbecile Liam Fox seems to be hinting otherwise, because said company needed to go into liquidation and start again IMO.

[Paddy]

I think sometimes the point is being missed.

It's like the company who have been working with the large consultancy for the last 5 years and it is getting to delivery and everyone realises they have just spent loads of money, have loads of paperwork and are nowhere near a solution.

So we can either
1) Remain with the large consultancy and plough more money into it.
2) Break up the partnership and go it alone/bring it in house/look at other options.

We collectively voted for 2

And what do we see now

1) £50 Billion 'divorce' payment? what?
2) Our Leader being shunned by the rest of the EU politicians - how mature.
3) People with vested interests spouting pap to get their own way because they have vested interests.

Your analogy of large consultancy for the last 5 years is not comparable with EU membership for 40 years, and the benefits occurred with membership.