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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostBut it is all rather silly. There needs to be an election for a new parliament through which can be formed a government that has a mandate to negotiate with the EU.
Article 50 is going to be invoked once the Tories have a PM. Then there will be an election (I hope), assuming the new PM thinks they can win it convincingly. Any party that aims to reverse the decision will need to stand on an explicit manifesto to do this. They will be absolutely killed. Not even a little bit.Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostI don't know where you read this, but it's completely baseless.
The process (of notifying the EU) is controlled by Gov't, not parliament. What you're suggesting is that a scenario could arise whereby a new Tory PM chooses not to formally notify the European Council of our intention to leave.
I can't believe I'm even bothering to write this. You can choose not to take me at my word, but I would've said the same, had we lost.
Anyone seriously considering the circumstances in which we ignore the vote, however clever that mechanism might appear to be, doesn't realise what they're playing with. Funny stuff.
Bring on Stage 3!
People that know more than me, but yeah, it's all theorising, guess they're getting off on the legal niceties....
Basically about Art.48 which is how Greenland left the EU, which is basically an amendment of EU membership, it would need to be ratified by all the 28 countries of the EU and the European Parliament. But that would be the case for a Brexit deal under Article 50 anyway, so both have the same level of difficulty.
There is precedent though, though Art 48 isn't 'leaving' in my short span of trying to read the thing without falling asleep.Last edited by stek; 26 June 2016, 21:19.Comment
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Lets face it, it's pretty clear the EU will be squeezing the UK's balls hard and there is a significant parliamentary majority for a solution similar to Norway with the free movement ofpeopleworkers.
It'll make government easy, just wait for the faxes of the new rules from Brussels and implement them. Boris would then have more time for his charity cricket matches.
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View Postps. I agree.
Article 50 is going to be invoked once the Tories have a PM. Then there will be an election (I hope), assuming the new PM thinks they can win it convincingly. Any party that aims to reverse the decision will need to stand on an explicit manifesto to do this. They will be absolutely killed. Not even a little bit.Comment
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Westminster are no longer in any position to dictate terms. Nicola Sturgeon is the only visible politician doing anything positive; the rest are either hiding, fighting, resigning or off playing cricket. The SNP could seize Westminster tomorrow and Boris Johnson would be glad to be off the hook."Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostWestminster are no longer in any position to dictate terms. Nicola Sturgeon is the only visible politician doing anything positive; the rest are either hiding, fighting, resigning or off playing cricket. The SNP could seize Westminster tomorrow and Boris Johnson would be glad to be off the hook.Comment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostWestminster are no longer in any position to dictate terms. Nicola Sturgeon is the only visible politician doing anything positive; the rest are either hiding, fighting, resigning or off playing cricket. The SNP could seize Westminster tomorrow and Boris Johnson would be glad to be off the hook.Comment
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