Contract Termination and bullying

[speling bee]

Everywhere I have contracted in IB, the permies are always looked after. If a contractor gets picked on by a permie, the contractor goes.

It comes with the turf.

I had massive argument with a senior permie on the phone a few years ago. He shouted that he would get me 'fired' straight away. By the time he got onto the person with the power to 'fire', I had things lined up so he got a disciplinary and had to make a formal apology.

[GillsMan]

lol - your funny

'you said that it's worth it to ensure that the permie knows what is acceptable behaviour' Im sure every non thicko got thats what i meant + karma payback

No, I said your post might have had more credence if that was your point. Still not sure why karma payback is even something you'd refer to. Very strange. But then what do I know, I don't have a team of 250 resources working for me.

[Unix]

That's stupid advice for so many reasons. For a start (other than it being childish) you miss:

c)He calls you on it - then you either do nothing and he knows you're all talk, or you follow through and he reports you to the police/agency/etc

Even in the case b) if he's an employee at a higher level and you're a contractor, so it's unlikely you'll prevail and are more likely to get canned for causing trouble.

So you let the permie bully you? Sometimes as a contractor you nee to take matters into your own hands as no one else will, appeasement never works with a-holes like the one OP is talking about.

[d000hg]

So you let the permie bully you? Sometimes as a contractor you nee to take matters into your own hands as no one else will, appeasement never works with a-holes like the one OP is talking about.

Threatening physical violence is a pretty crappy, desperate last move which if carried through, puts you always in the wrong - legally and (in my opinion) morally. You're going down to the bully's level and taking them on at their own game, which they have more practice at.

You are only bullied if you let them bully you... if you let it slide off your back it can't hurt you and they can't do anything. Well they can get you canned but in such a situation this is likely and you're better off out of it.

[speling bee]

So you let the permie bully you? Sometimes as a contractor you nee to take matters into your own hands as no one else will, appeasement never works with a-holes like the one OP is talking about.

But a businessman doesn't get his own hands dirty. You subcontract to a couple of Kurdish gents.

[tractor]

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I was given my notice on my contract halfway through the contract (had another 3 months to go) for which I believe was not a real reason.

In my contracting years, I've never encountered management like this, alway had contracts renewed and received excellent feedback.

This time was a very strange situation. I've had a very hard time with this contract, been bullied and harrassed repeatedly by the manager who manages me who has created a very negative impression of me.

Long story short, I was told I was incapable of doing my job. I was bought in at PMO assistant level, but told I was the PMO Lead and was expected to work as the PMO Lead with no discussion about rate change or title change.

I was also told that they expected me to deliver results at this level but didn't want me to ask any questions and nor would they give any context (!) I have numerous examples of very strange behaviour.

Today a friend told me I could have a case for bullying / harrassment and potentially wrongful dismissal. But does this work as a contractor?

Would it be worth it? ie would I be paid out on the remainder of the contract - 3 months?

Would I need evidence? The person who has bullied me doesn't want me to communicate by email so she avoids emailing me and always delivers her harrasment verbal style.

I would normally just choose to focus on finding something better, focusing on the positive etc, but sometimes, when you're being bulled maybe I should just make a stand? I've never come across anything quite like it. I'm not even permitted to finish a question before I am cut off and then patronised and put down. Its so weird.

Thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated.

Does anyone actually ever read the whole post?

Really sensible suggesting taking a female manager outside for a good smacking eh? And the OP could be female for all we know - or are you just looking to start off a bit of mud wrestling?

I hate bullies, there must really be something wrong with this one. I suggest that if you have a notice clause, use it after getting a suitable alternative contract.

You won't get any satisfaction from HR or any tribunal. Clients keep their distance from this type of thing at all costs and the contractor will almost always be found at fault and got rid of.

[d000hg]

I think he's put the misogynistic ideas of the past behind him. Being an enlightened man he doesn't see black or white, male or female, just a face to smack.

[speling bee]

Does anyone actually ever read the whole post?

Really sensible suggesting taking a female manager outside for a good smacking eh? And the OP could be female for all we know - or are you just looking to start off a bit of mud wrestling?

I hate bullies, there must really be something wrong with this one. I suggest that if you have a notice clause, use it after getting a suitable alternative contract.

You won't get any satisfaction from HR or any tribunal. Clients keep their distance from this type of thing at all costs and the contractor will almost always be found at fault and got rid of.

Send an annoying sub in for the notice period.

[kingcook]

Send an annoying sub in for the notice period.

There's got to be a market for that...

[Unix]

Does anyone actually ever read the whole post?

Really sensible suggesting taking a female manager outside for a good smacking eh? And the OP could be female for all we know - or are you just looking to start off a bit of mud wrestling?

I hate bullies, there must really be something wrong with this one. I suggest that if you have a notice clause, use it after getting a suitable alternative contract.

You won't get any satisfaction from HR or any tribunal. Clients keep their distance from this type of thing at all costs and the contractor will almost always be found at fault and got rid of.

I had assumed it was a man, if the OP is a man then of course it's not right to threaten a woman. Better to give her harsh talking to.