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SIPPs - I told you so

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    SIPPs - I told you so

    I've never understood the popularity here of Hargreaves Lansdown for SIPPS. Now that legislative changes have increased transparency with regard to charges, it's clear to people who previously couldn't be bothered reading the small-print exactly how expensive they actually are. Apparently many customers are unhappy.

    Link to telegraph article with table highlighting how expensive they are. (And where to go for cheaper alternatives.)

    DIY pensions: The cheapest Sipp fund supermarkets - Telegraph
    Last edited by IR35 Avoider; 1 March 2014, 20:26.

    #2
    Originally posted by IR35 Avoider View Post
    I've never understood the popularity here of Hargreaves Lansdown for SIPPS. Now that legislative changes have increased transparency with regard to charges, it's clear to people who previously couldn't be bothered reading the small-print exactly how expensive they actually are. Apparently many customers are unhappy.

    Link to telegraph article with table highlighting how expensive they are. (And where to go for cheaper alternatives.)

    DIY pensions: The cheapest Sipp fund supermarkets - Telegraph
    Hmmm. Interesting. I'm with HL. Not so good it seems....
    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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      #3
      Indeed, I am very happy with HL but they have become unaffordable (IMO) with their platform fee of 0.45% and fund management fees of typically ~0.6% on top. On my SIPP I shall be paying about £2k a year in fees unless I move. So I'm moving my SIPP to Interactive Investor as they use a flat rate fee structure instead of a %.
      Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
      Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.

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        #4
        Im with EPML/Selftrade and pay a fixed rate, rather than %, and invest in shares, so no management fees from what I have invested in heading off to EPML/Selftrade.

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          #5
          I am with HL and as I hold shares rather than funds I pay a flat £200 a year
          Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
          I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

          I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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            #6
            Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
            I am with HL and as I hold shares rather than funds I pay a flat £200 a year
            Investment Trusts? As an income centric investor I've missed that boat as the income trusts are trading on pemiums. My SIPP is invested in a basket of income generating unit trusts.
            Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
            Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
              Investment Trusts? As an income centric investor I've missed that boat as the income trusts are trading on pemiums. My SIPP is invested in a basket of income generating unit trusts.
              Another option is to invest in ETFs which trade at neither a premium nor a discount and these are subject to the same charges at H/L as shares, capped at £200p.a. The ETFs themselves have an annual charge of typically between 0.1% and 0.5%.
              Last edited by Retro; 5 March 2014, 09:31. Reason: extra info

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                #8
                Originally posted by Retro View Post
                Another option is to invest in ETFs which trade at neither a premium nor a discount and these are subject to the same charges at H/L as shares, capped at £200p.a. The ETFs themselves have an annual charge of typically between 0.1% and 0.5%.
                Thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't considered ETFs but I prefer actively managed funds to tracker type investments (AFAIUI, ETFs are index trackers?).
                Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
                  Thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't considered ETFs but I prefer actively managed funds to tracker type investments (AFAIUI, ETFs are index trackers?).
                  You are aware that 80% -90% of actively managed funds do worse than simply buying an index tracker

                  See Index Funds Beat Actively Managed Funds - Business Insider
                  merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by eek View Post
                    You are aware that 80% -90% of actively managed funds do worse than simply buying an index tracker

                    See Index Funds Beat Actively Managed Funds - Business Insider
                    Yes, indeed. That's why I hold only five funds in my SIPP and they are all top performers over both the long and short terms.
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