Anyone else watching the progress of the Personal Service Company Lords committee?

[jamesbrown]

From other comments made I'm not sure the powers that be actually understand what an umbrella company is

Having listened to about an hour of the commentary, I'm not convinced that any of them, some of the experts included, really understand much of this too deeply. Admittedly, it can be harder to respond to ill-informed questions than well-posed questions.

[d000hg]

Chap is suggesting that there are not enough IR35 investigations going on there should be 10 times as many!

He's probably right - why have it and not bother enforcing it?

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

That can only happen if the employers want to take them onto the payroll - isn't the exact opposite happening since the the millenium?

Yep. Don't think it had the effect that they intended

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Having listened to about an hour of the commentary, I'm not convinced that any of them, some of the experts included, really understand much of this too deeply. Admittedly, it can be harder to respond to ill-informed questions than well-posed questions.

I don't think the Lords have really grasped all the facts - in the last session one of them was referring to P35

[jamesbrown]

I don't think the Lords have really grasped all the facts - in the last session one of them was referring to P35

And working through a "Public Service Company"

IMHO it's window dressing for whatever changes they're about to make.

[Sausage Surprise]

and these people run the country ffs

[Sausage Surprise]

John Whiting's (of the OTS) comments from the first meeting are quite telling http://www.parliament.uk/documents/l...Ev2Whiting.pdf Their original intention, with IR35, would be that people would be forced back into the security of employment - page 7 and 8.

That's astounding. Just goes to show they haven't a clue when it comes to contracting/freelancing.

[GB9]

Haven't seen anything yet about things such as the flexible workforce the country needs or contractors being forced into non-sensible business decisions so as to appear outside IR35.

[malvolio]

Haven't seen anything yet about things such as the flexible workforce the country needs or contractors being forced into non-sensible business decisions so as to appear outside IR35.

Still a way to go. They have yet to talk to anyone who actually understands contracting, let alone anyone who does it for a living. When they do, a few veils may be lifted...

[Zero Liability]

He's probably right - why have it and not bother enforcing it?

Cost-benefit. It doesn't rake in very much directly. That's why they are selling its principal benefit as deterrence.

and these people run the country ffs

Explains a lot, eh? Our elected chieftains are even worse, though.