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Contractor working 2 jobs at the same time

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    #21
    Originally posted by maganda View Post
    really so you think its ok that some one does the bare minimum and cashes in double?
    If the contractor meets the client requirements and expectations, then yes.

    Originally posted by maganda View Post
    Yes and I am a proper contractor. I deliver on time and all my clients are happy with my work for years. And that is what a proper contrcator should be.
    From your original post it's not quite clear - which of the two clients are unhappy with the work? What steps have the clients taken to discuss their dissatisfaction with the supplier?

    Originally posted by maganda View Post
    But for you a proper contractor just seems to be take the money and run?
    No - you do what you are contracted to do. If the client is dissatisfied then you work to remedy their dissatisfaction.

    I'm interested in making sure my clients are satisfied with my performance, not whether two wannabes can't get their heads round the ability to deliver for multiple clients concurrently.
    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
    I hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.

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      #22
      Originally posted by maganda View Post

      Morally I think it’s wrong as he is trying to offload his work onto his co-workers and he is cashing in double day rate with doing the bare minimum?
      There is no moral about it.

      First how do you know his individual contract terms? Different contractors for the same client, and even employees in the same company can have different contracts due to what they negotiate. While you should do this anyway - if you are likely to have more than one contract at a time then you negotiate your contract terms to take this into account.

      Secondly if he's trying to offload work on to you then first politely refuse to do it. If he's stupid enough to try it again then make sure the client hears both you and other people refusing to do it with good explanations why. Part of the rise of Agile methodologies is to keep an eye on people's work effort.
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #23
        If he is genuinely billing two clients for 5 days a week each, and only putting in 40 hours work, then he is taking the piss.

        How do you know his contractual arrangements? How do you know he's not working evenings and weekends to fulfill both roles?

        In any case, it's up to the client(s) to pull him up.

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          #24
          This is how offshoring works -multiple clients

          This is how offshoring works . I ask for a quote and they quote me 80hrs. I have no idea whether it is 80 hours this week or over the next 2 months as they always seem to come back with excuses why they have not delivered. One reason is that they have multiple clients and my client is less important. What does this contractor do when both clients have a deadline for the same day?

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            #25
            A lot of posts are assuming that the OP's friend has approached both clients with a contract that allows this flexibility and is managed and measured in an agreed way which is fine.

            I would take a guess that if he just 'realised' it there is a high risk that the contracts haven't been approached as I mentioned and he is in a situation where he is just blatantly abusing the clients by billing them for time he just isn't doing.

            I wonder what would happen in his situation if he went to each of his client and explained he has multiple revenue streams and time would be allocated in the best way between them. I am guessing one or neither would be overly happy.

            We just need more details.
            'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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              #26
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              A lot of posts are assuming that the OP's friend has approached both clients with a contract that allows this flexibility and is managed and measured in an agreed way which is fine.
              I didn't assume it was his friend at all:
              Originally posted by maganda View Post
              While my mate has recently got a new contract we realised that the same contractor is working two contracts at the same time
              I took it that OP is working for one client with Contractor X, mate is working for another client with Contractor X. They are both working with X for different clients, therefore X must have more than one client.

              That being the case, neither the OP nor his mate know the contractual situation, so nor will we.
              Originally posted by MaryPoppins
              I hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.

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                #27
                Originally posted by GillsMan View Post
                I have multiple contracts at any one time. Right now, I have two massive clients (one banking, one in oil) who between them employ over 240,000 employees worldwide. Both would like me to work as full time as possible. Both understand I have other clients. The thing is, I'm not bad at what I do, and can sometimes do a piece of analysis and work in 2 hours which would ordinarily take four days to achieve. So I bill based partly on time worked and partly on output/time the client has saved.

                So sometimes I do bill full days for both clients, even though I might only have worked for seven hours in a day. I look at what I have honestly achieved that day and determine whether I am comfortable billing a full or half day for each client. Some days, I don't bill at all, others I bill lots. Both my clients are very happy with the output.

                The only challenge is limiting the amount of meetings I'm asked to attend.

                I call my approach: business. I'd personally keep your nose out of things that don't concern you. Don't mean to be harsh, but it's quite possible that this chap is doing really well and people are happy with him.
                I am working 2 clients right now...spend a few days at one clients office, then a day at another..both want me full time, but I am delivering for both, I only bill for hours worked on their jobs.
                I get annoyed when others at client A office keep asking me "are u working somewhere else?" ....tell them nothing to do with them.

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