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    #11
    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    Nope, sorry but wrong. Email is as good as a signature.
    It depends what the email says. For example:
    • Would you accept a contract extension to...
    or
    • Do do agree to a contract renewal.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Sausage Surprise View Post
      If they had a recording of it I assume.
      If I was in this situation and without a recording of my acceptance, I would worm it that I "was receptive to an extension" not that I agreed to it - that in my mind I was waiting for paperwork to arrive, not that I was effectively renewed.



      If you've accepted via e-mail then they can pull that back out I'm afraid. It is as good as a courtesy letter offering confirmation.

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        #13
        Originally posted by malvolio View Post
        Nope, sorry but wrong. Email is as good as a signature.
        WHS. Although does contract have notice period?

        Or just phone in sick and not turn up? lol
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          #14
          At end of the day it doesn't matter what the wording of the mail/verbal/written in blood. None of these change the situation one iota. The agent will be seriously pissed off and I expect the OP will have to fight for his last pay. The client will be mildly unamused (I am assuming he isn't key to anything) but he will live. Don't expect them to be falling over to offer you work in the future though, it may happen but don't assume it is a given anymore.

          You are dealing with people and their bonus here. It will never go legal so what he said and how is pretty irrelavant. He gave the expectation he was staying and has now withdrawn it. There are going to be pissed off people and threats. That is what he has to deal with. The chance of anything serious coming out of this is virtually zero. Just gonna be a bit of a tulipstorm for awhile that is all. How much of a tulipstorm depends on how hard he plays it.

          The OP might want to drop NWP2C a PM for some expert advice letting clients/agents down and how to deal with it.

          Just hope he learns doing this shizzle is not very professional and do it too much it will come back and bite you... hard.
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            #15
            Originally posted by Noseypick View Post
            'The Supplier understands and agrees that any Assignment
            may not be terminated by the Supplier for any reason'

            I wondered where I stand legally.
            Don't speak to the agency about terminating the contract. These "no notice" contracts are just an excuse for the agency to screw you by not paying your last invoice. You will probably find there is a notice period in the agency's contract with the client anyway.

            Speak to the client and tell them you are leaving and negotiate a notice/handover period. They will give notice to the agency that they are terminating your contract and in turn the agency will tell you "bad luck, you are being let go".

            If they agency does kick up a fuss (because they think they can make some money out of the deal by not paying you your last invoice) then speak to the client and find out what they are paying the agency. Basically, if the agency get paid then they should pass the money on to you, not withhold it for some imagined damages for breach of contract. If they do withhold any money then use the standard dunning procedures to recover it and force them to justify the loss in court if necessary. (It won't get that far, they will back down)

            As for it not being professional, I've seen clients bin people at a moments notice or foist a paycut on them so sod it. It's just business, get on with it.
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              #16
              Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
              Never, ever sa you accept a contract whether in an email or verbally unless you are certain this is what you want to do.

              If you dont want to commit say something like 'things look ok but I need to see and sign the contract before accepting.'

              Frankly, the oP is the type that gets us all a bad name. They want the protection of a signed contract when it suits but want easy get out of jail cards when it doesnt. Well, sorry but you made you bed, now lye in it.

              You'll either have to take the contract or find some compromise solution to you and the agent \ client which allows for early termination.

              Well said Bolshie. You accepted the contract, suck it up.

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                #17
                I might be old fashioned like this, but is there no worth in actually doing what you say you were going to? A reputation for shafting people (even if they are an agency!) won't do you any favours long term.

                Originally posted by Noseypick View Post
                I am coming to the end of the first 3 months in my currency contract. This is due to end on 31st jan.

                I accepted an extension by email, but signed no paperwork that was sent. This extension is due to end March 31st.

                I have since been offered a preferable contract (longer). I would like to accept this, but on emailing my agency, I was informed that I had accepted the extension (starts feb 1st) and that my contract states:
                'The Supplier understands and agrees that any Assignment
                may not be terminated by the Supplier for any reason'

                I wondered where I stand legally. Can the agency make me continue with the extension of the contract despite having no signed paperwork for the extension and despite me not having started this extension yet?

                Any help would be greatfully received.
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                  #18
                  Avoiding the argument about whether its right or wrong but surely agency has got no right to withold anything for any work actually done?

                  If you decide to terminate, then they owe you for work done up to that point. Period. If they don't pay then go after them.

                  If they want to start a SEPARATE legal issue about the fact that you've breached the contract then that's up to them.
                  Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                    Avoiding the argument about whether its right or wrong but surely agency has got no right to withold anything for any work actually done?

                    If you decide to terminate, then they owe you for work done up to that point. Period. If they don't pay then go after them.

                    If they want to start a SEPARATE legal issue about the fact that you've breached the contract then that's up to them.
                    Depends on if you are opted in or out of agency regulations and whether they enjoy arguing the point.

                    I'm sure that eventually you would get the money back but I'm sure its cheaper for them to fight it rather than you.
                    Last edited by eek; 25 January 2013, 15:49.
                    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                      Avoiding the argument about whether its right or wrong but surely agency has got no right to withold anything for any work actually done?
                      They can claim for damages from your company due to the breach of contract though the amount of those damages would be open to dispute - probably in court.

                      Simply withholding payment of whatever amount they owe you isn't acceptable.
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